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    Question which search engines to use?

    I would like to ask the opinions of the members of this forum regarding which search engines to list sites on, both paid and free.

    Re: paid search engines, are they really worth it? If so, which ones to use? And which ones are a waste of money?

    Re: free search engines and directories, besides Google, Altavista, Yahoo, and DMOZ, which ones are worth submitting to? Are there any other free search engines anymore in fact?

    I very much appreciate any input I get on these questions.

    Thank you,
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    in the important thread at the top of this subforum is a list of places you should submit to.
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    The Search Engines And Getting Listed For Free And Fee

    Originally posted by leswhaley

    I would like to ask the opinions of the members of this forum regarding which search engines to list sites on, both paid and free.
    Hello Carolyn,

    We are going to assume that when you say ... search engines ... that you mean the spidering type, right?

    If you do, then ALL you have to do is to just get linked from as many top ranked and important sites in your community as is possible.

    Work on this everyday if possible, if not, at least once a week.

    Also work diligently on the QUALITY of your site and you will be spidered AND indexed by ALL of the search engines, even the ones that offer "paid inclusion" programs.


    Re: paid search engines, are they really worth it? If so, which ones to use? And which ones are a waste of money?
    By paid search engines, we are going to assume that you are referring to those search engines that also have a "paid inclusion" program.

    If you are, then the answer to your questions are ...

    It depends.

    1.) It depends on if you cannot get indexed without using the "paid inclusion" program. If you cannot, go ahead and TRY paying for one page, AFTER you have optimized it, otherwise you'll be wasting your money and it won't be ranked high anyway. Now, to put this into perspective for you. We are of the belief that if your page is optimized then you will be found by their spiders anyway, so paying for inclusion could be a waste of money. But, then again, maybe not, as it has been speculated that "paid inclusion" program pages are given a little more weight in ranking consideration.

    2.) It depends on if you can get a high enough ranking to be found. In other words, if it warrants a decent ROI. If you pay to be included and your page still cannot be found in the top 10 or so, then it won't be worth the ROI.


    Re: free search engines and directories, besides Google, Altavista, Yahoo, and DMOZ, which ones are worth submitting to? Are there any other free search engines anymore in fact?

    I very much appreciate any input I get on these questions.
    There is ...

    Inktomi (MSN and Overture) - http://www.inktomi.com/services/web_...inclusion.html

    Fast (AllTheWeb/Lycos) - http://searchservices.lycos.com/searchservices/

    Ask Jeeves/Teoma - http://ask.ineedhits.com/

    LookSmart/WiseNut (MSN) - http://listings.looksmart.com/?synd=none&chan=lshomepg - http://www.zeal.com/users/build_directory.jhtml

    Again Carolyn, our advice is to design a quality site and acquire LOTS of inbound links from all the TOP RELATED pages and sites in your community, and we can say with confidence that your pages will be listed in ALL the major search engines. Then find out where they rank, and then and only then should you consider paying for inclusion to the search engines.

    Now, paying for a review from Yahoo and/or LookSmart is an entirely DIFFERENT situation, so if you have done enough research to warrant the risk to pay for a review, then go for it.
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    Thanks for the replies. I did look a the thread at the top of this subforum and I'm going through the list making submissions.

    I'm confused about Yahoo and LookSmart - how are they different than the other paid submission programs? Will they not list your page for free eventually, like the other paid inclusion programs?

    Carolyn

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    Yahoo And LookSmart Are NOT Search Engines

    Originally posted by leswhaley

    Thanks for the replies.

    I'm confused about Yahoo and LookSmart
    Hi Carolyn,

    You are very welcome.

    Yahoo says ...

    http://add.yahoo.com/fast/add?+Business

    US$299.00 non-refundable, recurring annual fee
    Required for commercial listings but available for any site
    Guaranteed and expedited consideration of your site within 7 business days
    Learn more...

    Submit your site for consideration
    Yahoo doesn't guarantee a listing, only a review (consideration) of your site and if it is not good enough for them they won't list you, and you still have to pay.


    LookSmart is now using a Paid Inclusion Model but you still pay per click.

    LookSmart says ...

    Small Business Listings is a paid inclusion service for the LookSmart Network designed specifically for small businesses.

    http://listings.looksmart.com/?synd=none&chan=lshomepg

    How are they different than the other paid submission programs? Will they not list your page for free eventually, like the other paid inclusion programs?
    Yahoo and LookSmart are NOT search engines. They are directories.

    They will add your non-business site for free, but you still must submit it to their sites, as they will NOT send a spider to your site to include it, ever.
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