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    Why Editing Web Content Is So Important!

    So often web users launch web sites, blogs, etc. with content that is packed with errors such as spelling and punctuation. Some sites offer a spell check before you publish your content, which is helpful. (wordpress.com) Disregarding proper grammar on your website will only harm you, as it limits your credibility and perceived intelligence amongst readers. What do you think? What is the easiest way to catch errors on your web site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolyburger View Post
    Disregarding proper grammar on your website will only harm you, as it limits your credibility and perceived intelligence amongst readers. What do you think?
    I agree entirely, although there are many very popular and highly respected sites that are packed with typographical and grammatical errors. I appalls me, but the masses seem not to care or notice. (I can only assume as much, because, if people were complaining, I suspect the situation would improve.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph.m View Post
    I appalls me
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    Spelling is generally my Achilles heel, but "appalls" is an accepted US spelling, and I follow that system generally.
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    ralph, the funny part was your "I" typo, in a thread about correct spelling

    i guess you missed it the second time, too

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    Quote Originally Posted by r937 View Post
    ralph, the funny part was your "I" typo, in a thread about correct spelling
    Ooops! (I wish those trees would get out of the way so I could see the wood.)

    I appalls meself every time I make such a blunder.

    EDIT: it's not the first time I've fallen prey to Muphry's Law, as Raena pointed out not long ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph.m View Post
    Ooops! (I wish those trees would get out of the way so I could see the wood.)

    I appalls meself every time I make such a blunder.

    EDIT: it's not the first time I've fallen prey to Muphry's Law, as Raena pointed out not long ago.
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    sooo we've acknowleged that we all suck at spelling sometimes while writing online. what can we do to fix it? does anyone actually care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolyburger View Post
    sooo we've acknowleged that we all suck at spelling sometimes while writing online. what can we do to fix it?
    Use a spell checker.

    does anyone actually care?
    Watch CNN or read your local newspaper, apparently not seeing as they are full of typos.

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    Before posting content to site anyone should check the errors in MS word or by some specialist then the final check will be done at time of posting (spell check) then post it.

    A well written content is the key to success of your Website..

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    During shooting of the first Star Wars movie, Mark Hamil was talking to Harrison Ford about a continuity error.

    As the story goes, Hamil was complaining that in the scene after the trash compactor, everyone had dry hair. Hamil explained to Ford this could distract and annoy moviegoers.

    Ford is said to have replied, as only Harrison Ford could; "Kid, if the audience notices that, then we've got bigger problems."

    Sure, typos matter because they can be annoying. But it might not be all that bad to introduce a few to see if that's all people notice and comment on. Because, if people are reading the typos, that's the most interesting part of the article.

    In other words, you can focus too much on least little thing the editor role provides article writing. Editors aren't spell check for journalists. Learning about the role the editor plays may be a step up in your writing career.

    An editor can shape or change story focus, suggest human interest angles, and much more than what you've been trained to believe. For example, an editor can go beyond keyword selection to keyword analysis. Knowing the user psychology behind why certain keywords were chosen can totally change the article you write. The editor role provides that. The editing functions in software do not.

    There is a big difference in applying a software function upon a text string and editing articles.

    A well written content is the key to success of your Website..
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    Spelling and grammar checkers can only go sew far. Nothing beats a proper check by a person who is good at spotting mistakes (an editor or proofreader).

    Back in the old days when I used to work on printed books (Google it, young 'uns), we used to print our pages out to proofread them because it was much easier to spot the errors on paper than on screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pachey View Post
    Spelling and grammar checkers can only go sew far. Nothing beats a proper check by a person who is good at spotting mistakes (an editor or proofreader).

    Back in the old days when I used to work on printed books (Google it, young 'uns), we used to print our pages out to proofread them because it was much easier to spot the errors on paper than on screen.
    That's a great idea. I think the main idea behind excellent web content/grammar, etc. is that you are communicating something about yourself through the material you post on your website. I am immediately turned off to an article and begin to question the credibility when the author misspells throughout his entire content. Sure, the idea behind an article is still sound regardless of menial errors. However, I believe words hold power, and behind every good website is a considerate writer.

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    Spelling and grammar mistakes are all over the web - it's one of the reasons that my company just started doing editing/proofreading services. It's actually kind of shocking that people are so sloppy.

    I guess I shouldn't be surprised, though. I spent a few years editing scripts in a newsroom, and you wouldn't believe the poor writing I encountered!

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    Authors lose credibility big time, in my eyes, if they can't spell their native language. Countless English people don't know their 'compliment' from their 'complement', their 'principle' from their 'principal', or indeed their 'their' from 'they're' or 'there'.

    The funny thing is, of course, that when us Spelling Kings write 'The curtain fabrics complement the wallpaper', the Spelling Dunces point and laugh because they think they've spotted a spelling mistake!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Unit7285 View Post
    when us Spelling Kings write...
    What about grammar kings?! [Note: I acknowledge that I'm being a total hypocrite here, having made a terrible gaff earlier in this thread! ]
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph.m View Post
    What about grammar kings?! [Note: I acknowledge that I'm being a total hypocrite here, having made a terrible gaff earlier in this thread! ]
    I didn't dare to even refer to grammar - I know I'm not fireproof on grammar!


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    It's prevalent right across the media just now, not just on the web. If any of you watch Sky News regularly, you're bound to have seen spelling mistakes on their captions and tickers. It happens daily.
    My favourite is works vans. On my morning commute I sometimes see three vans, from three different building firms, all advertising to build me an extention. They must have all gone to the same place to get their vans lettered.
    I used to also pass a car quite often parked by the side of the road that the owner had obviously spent some money decorating with decals and in 8-inch letters along the bottom of the doors was written 'Alpha Romeo'.

    Edit: sorry, also forgot about the boy racer at my work who had a custom sun visor made with Citreon in big letters across the windscreen. Laugh, I nearly clocked in.

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    If you don't have someone else to proofread for you, the best thing you can do is to read your article out loud yourself. You'll probably catch most errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolyburger View Post
    sooo we've acknowleged that we all suck at spelling sometimes while writing online. what can we do to fix it? does anyone actually care?
    Why is writing online any different to writing on a printed page? If you're writing a website, treat it just as you would a brochure or leaflet or letter. Yes, spelling and grammar is important. The best case scenario is that people who do care about language (and there are a lot of us about!) will think a little bit less of you, and will have less confidence in what you are saying. The worst case scenario is that your writing is so bad that it doesn't make sense and people can't understand it, or they misinterpret it because you've used the wrong word, poor sentence construction or incorrect punctuation.

    When you're writing online, just as when you're writing for a printed page, the answer is to check, check and check again. First up, run the text through the spelling and grammar checker of your choice (eg MS Word) - this will pick up some of the bigger mistakes, although obviously it won't get anywhere near all of them. Then read your text again, carefully. Try to forget what you wrote, and read what it actually says. If you're not sure about the spelling of a particular word, or the correct usage of a phrase, look it up on the web. And after all that, if you really aren't all that hot at spelling, punctuation and grammar, get someone else who is to proof-read it.

    But finally, don't get too hung up about odd mistakes. Mistakes will creep in. Most people are pretty good at telling the difference between a 'slip of the finger' typo and the writing of someone who neither knows nor cares about making it right. If you find a mistake, or if a customer points one out, go back and correct it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph.m View Post
    What about grammar kings?! [Note: I acknowledge that I'm being a total hypocrite here, having made a terrible gaff earlier in this thread! ]
    You didn't make at "terrible gaff", you made a typo. Sometimes when the fingers do the walking, they trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerin View Post
    An "editor" or a "proof-reader" is a good idea, but one that most bloggers simply can't afford/have. So the best thing to do is try and develop those skills yourself. It will take some time, but it is worth the effort. As a writer you credibility depends on what you write. Why should the reader spend time on what you write if you don't and correct the errors? Spelling and grammatical errors are such a turn-off.
    It's always harder to spot mistakes in your own writing - not just because there are some things where you might not know the right spelling or construct - even where you've made typos that you know are wrong, if you wrote it, you know what it should say, and there's a tendency to read what you expect to read.

    If you can't afford a professional proof-reader, it may be worth trying to find a "proof-reading buddy" - someone who can proof-read your work, and you can proof-read theirs. You both get the benefits of having your work checked, without the same up-front expense - and by reading someone else's work in that kind of detail, it can give you tips and pointers to improve your own writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie D View Post
    It's always harder to spot mistakes in your own writing - not just because there are some things where you might not know the right spelling or construct - even where you've made typos that you know are wrong, if you wrote it, you know what it should say, and there's a tendency to read what you expect to read.

    If you can't afford a professional proof-reader, it may be worth trying to find a "proof-reading buddy" - someone who can proof-read your work, and you can proof-read theirs. You both get the benefits of having your work checked, without the same up-front expense - and by reading someone else's work in that kind of detail, it can give you tips and pointers to improve your own writing.
    Something else I do to help find mistakes is to put the work in another format. It's surprising how quickly a typo left in word jumps off the page in a PDF! Even copy and paste into notepad can help you find errors you've otherwise missed.
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    I would suggest before publishing content on the site, Go for a spell & grammar checking in the word itself with the geographic dictionary keeping on for whichever country you are writing content for.
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    I believe that changes is a signal for SE, mens that your web site is developing and I have heard SE especially Google can rank your web site higher due to that.
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