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    Google ...Cretain issue you must know ...

    Hi,

    Does anyone know that the technology "pagerank" used by Google is still patent-pending? http://www.google.com/press/pressrel/pressrelease1.html

    Have they got the patent? If not, I think it is not, do you know why?

    Actually, the Pagerank technology is not the technology of Google, but Baidu (http://www.baidu.com). Baidu is a Chinese Search Engine (Hence, if you do not understand Chinese, or do have the Chinese viewer plug-in, you cannot understand/view this page). Baidu has already has their technology patent. If Google still get their patent, then certain legal issue arise or Google must be closed up.

    Do you know that the OpenFind (http://www.OpenFind.com) (beta test: now is July 09, 2002) is better than Google. It was created by a Professor from Taiwan. It has data 1.7 times more than Google stored in their database. Their technology is known as "PolyRank". OpenFind is in multi-languages (Chinese, English, etc).
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    Try to search three of them:

    http://www.goolge.com
    http://www.openfind.com (It uses php at front-end interface!)
    http://www.baidu.com (Chinese search engine)

    And compare your result. And kindly post your opinion here. Thanks.
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    Re: Google ...Cretain issue you must know ...

    Originally posted by ckchin
    Do you know that the OpenFind is better than Google. OpenFind is in multi-languages (Chinese, English, etc).
    Google also offers
    multi-languages

    Of the 5 searches i did - all came up with un-relevant results - i don't think that's down to 'Beta testing' as the sites been registered since 20-Jan-1998 Whois Search and were indexed by Alexa on the 12th Dec 1998 so they've been testing since then - also they dont spell check keywords.

    I dont think Google's got anything to worry about

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    Google - all results relevant and recent
    Openfind - somewhat relevant results, but several were a year old
    Baidu - I haven't installed the Chinese character set for my browser yet, so "??? ???????? ?????? ????????? ???? ??" wasn't very informative

    I still choose Google.

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    Do you have any information regarding Google's Pagerank technology patent?

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    Unless the Chinese company patented their technology in all of the other major patent offices outside of china, ex uspto, then google may still be able to file patents on that page rank thing. The reason for this is that I don't believe that the US and China have an intellectual property agreement in place.

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    SitePoint Evangelist ckchin's Avatar
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    As long as I understand, Baidu filed their patent in USA.

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    Ya, I'm pretty sure China and the US don't have any intellectual property treaties.

    Patents are also not like copyrights, they can easily be broken/disputed/etc. They also don't least near as long.
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    Originally posted by aspen
    Ya, I'm pretty sure China and the US don't have any intellectual property treaties.
    Actually, I'd be extremely surprised if that was true.

    Anyway, all search engines have strengths and weaknesses. I tend to like Google the best because it seems to have very relevant results.
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    Originally posted by mmj


    Actually, I'd be extremely surprised if that was true.

    Anyway, all search engines have strengths and weaknesses. I tend to like Google the best because it seems to have very relevant results.
    You'd be suprised? Its pretty well known that China is a hotbed of piracy, I don't think they'd just allow copies of windows to be sold for $10 on the street if they had treaties with us. If they do or if they don't, piracy is a big problem over there.
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    As economic point of view, I, if I am the leader from China, I will silently support the piracy because if we buy the original one, money will flow out from country.

    You cannot expect the China people (like students, home user) to buy original windows which cost USD100++ (OEM for Windows 98 is USD 100, am I right). USD100 is their whole year income.

    Actually we cannot sell things to other country with the same price as the buying (consumer) power is not same.

    Do you know that you can have every thing cheaper than amazon from http://www.buy.com?
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