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    What should i use??

    I've started building a site and i had a design but i was just wondering what should i use, frames or tables??

    Because i haven't begun building the site i've made a sketch of the site, here's the link test site hope y'all understand the design.

    And onther thing if i shold frames how should i do it??

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    Frames can't do that.

    You'd have to use tables.

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    I would pretty much always (except in an extremely rare case) have to say tables.

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    definatly use tables!

    that "sketch" looks almost like it was done with a pencil!

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    Originally posted by iTec
    that "sketch" looks almost like it was done with a pencil!
    that sketch is a leet MS Paint artwork
    for the thread starter, use tables. u dont want to use frames only to find out later about the numerous problems they offer...for free!.

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    well, for the kind of design you want. u should do it with Tables. you wont encounter much or any probs with them and will make ur work easier then to frames. but take care with nesting the tables..

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    As been said before, tables are the way to go, for the simple reasons that this can't be made with frames. The lay-out is too complex for that .

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    Originally posted by randem
    Frames can't do that.

    You'd have to use tables.
    What are you talking about? Frames certainly CAN do that!
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    Originally posted by creole
    What are you talking about? Frames certainly CAN do that!
    Would you mind showing me how, then?
    ( I assume you looked at his sketch. )

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    Creole, don't do it! Life's too short to throw away on such a hideous frameset.
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    AFAIK it is not possible. Because the welkom message part doesn't span the entire width of the page, it is not possible to create the most right column -- the xtra menu one.

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    Originally posted by creole

    What are you talking about? Frames certainly CAN do that!
    Now this I wanna see
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    creole if you know how to do it with frames maybe you could show me??

    I'm gonna try to do it with tables, thnks for replay's

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    All you non believers ! Have you never heard of nested framesets?

    Check this page out and view the source:

    http://www.jqjacobs.net/web/frames/frames_e.html

    For an explanation:

    http://www.jqjacobs.net/web/frames/creating_frames.html

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    Originally posted by glenplake
    All you non believers ! Have you never heard of nested framesets?

    Check this page out and view the source:

    http://www.jqjacobs.net/web/frames/frames_e.html
    Hardly the same, Glen.

    So, come on then,stud

    Now, *do* the one shown in the sketch.

    Have a hat, knife and fork at the ready when you try.
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    Originally posted by Bill Posters


    Hardly the same, Glen.

    So, come on then,stud

    Now, *do* the one shown in the sketch.

    Have a hat, knife and fork at the ready when you try.


    OK, I was cheerfully constructing *that* before I noticed scrollbars on ThaLikz's sketch and found the bottom half.

    Still I daresay its possible using iFrames.

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    Originally posted by glenplake
    Still I daresay its possible using iFrames.
    I hate to point out to you that accomplishing the task with IFRAMES would also require the use of TABLES. :-)

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    Originally posted by randem
    I hate to point out to you that accomplishing the task with IFRAMES would also require the use of TABLES. :-)
    No it wouldn't.

    You can simply position and size the iframes with CSS.

    100% table-free
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    Originally posted by Bill PostersYou can simply position and size the iframes with CSS. 100% table-free
    Cheater! Hahahah :-)

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    ok ok...

    I did see the sketch but I guess tha I missed the overlap on one of the edges. It could be done but ONE of the edges would have to extend to the full length (or width) of the side of the "square".

    I'm wrong...my apologies.
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    Originally posted by creole
    ok ok...

    I did see the sketch but I guess tha I missed the overlap on one of the edges. It could be done but ONE of the edges would have to extend to the full length (or width) of the side of the "square".

    I'm wrong...my apologies.
    No problem, and I totally agree with you now .
    Anyway, ThaLIkz, I guess we all agree tables are the way to go.

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    Originally posted by randem
    Cheater! Hahahah :-)
    Using CSS is hardly cheating. That's what it's there for.
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    Okay, thnks for the reply's once again

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    Tables - definately NOT frames.

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