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    Need Opinions on Photoshop, Fireworks

    Hello Everyone,

    I'm writing an article for my web site comparing Photoshop to Fireworks, and would like everyone's opinion that wants to give it to me.

    These are my views, I know not everyone will agree, if you agree, or disagree, let me know.

    Drawing
    Photoshop-Bad
    Fireworks-Worse

    Photographs
    Photoshop-Outstanding
    Fireworks-Decent/Poor

    Ease Of Use
    Photoshop-Easy
    Fireworks-More difficult to learn than Photoshop, but not too difficult

    Javascript Features(ie. Rollovers, etc.)
    Photoshop-Good??????????
    Fireworks-Great

    Web Objects(ie. navbars, headers, banners, etc.)
    Photoshop-Good
    Fireworks-Great

    Overall
    Photoshop-best for using photographs and turning them into outstanding graphics with near endless possibilities.
    Fireworks-best for nav bars, key is using shapes, limited ability when working with photographs.

    I know chances are you won't agree with everything I've written above, and may not agree with any of it at all, let me know YOUR opinion.

    Thank you for everyone's time,

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    Drawing -
    While I kind of agree, it is worth mentioning that vector graphics programs are better suited to drawing. There are, however, some amazing digital artists who do all drawing in Photoshop.

    Photographs -
    agree

    Ease of Use -
    mostly agree.

    Javascript Features -
    somewhat disagree. While Photoshop is quite capable in this area, it's not terribly easy to use, and is often confusing. Fireworks, by comparison is relatively easy to use but at times a bit cumbersome. The interface often requires too many clicks for a simple task.

    Web Objects -
    I'm not sure that this is a fair comparison. The examples you mentioned seem more dependant on the designer's skill than they do on the program's capabilities. Too vague.

    Overall -
    Photoshop wears the crown for photo editing, bar none. It's also far superior for image optimization, and for general features and ease of use.

    Fireworks is too cumbersome and too lacking in features to be compared to Photoshop fairly, however the price tags generally reflect this. It's biggest strength, and an advantage over PS, is for animations and interactive items.

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    Use the search function here.

    The pros/cons of each package have been discussed to death already.

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    I disagree with a fair bit of that actually

    Drawing
    Photoshop-Bad
    Fireworks-worst
    What are you comparing this to???
    Photoshop is GREAT for this, not sure about fireworks...

    Ease Of Use
    Photoshop-Easy
    Fireworks-More difficult to learn than Photoshop, but not too difficult
    I think you'll find photoshop is a bit harder to use that fireworks

    Javascript Features(ie. Rollovers, etc.)
    Photoshop-Good??????????
    Fireworks s-Great
    Imageready is excellent for this... much better that fireworks...

    Web Objects(ie. navbars, headers, banners, etc.)
    Photoshop-Good
    Fireworks-Great
    uh uh, photoshop also is really good for this (read: imageready)
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    Overall
    Photoshop-best for using photographs and turning them into outstanding graphics with near endless possibilities.
    Fireworks-best for nav bars, key is using shapes, limited ability when working with photographs.
    Nup, photoshop matches and adds more to whatever fireworks can do... it all depends on who's using it really... i've seen awsome stuff made in fireworks, and bad stuff made in PS.

    Have you actually used both of these products?
    There aren't really in the same boat IMO.

    You should be comparing photoshop with another one of the high end image editors and fireworks with something like PSP7, it's like comparing a rowboat to a cruiser really

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    Thank you for your opinions, it looks like so far I'm pretty much in agreement with everything you said.

    While I kind of agree, it is worth mentioning that vector graphics programs are better suited to drawing. There are, however, some amazing digital artists who do all drawing in Photoshop.
    I do have that down, that they'd be better to go to a program like Illustrator or Freehand.

    Good insight on the javascript features, and it is worth mentioning in the article what you said was the major advantage, animation.

    Thank you randem

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    platinum, agreed, I will rethink the article.

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    Yes I think fireworks is much more user friendly than Photoshop

    Everything else that has been said is about right. I see no reason to use Fireworks when someone has Photoshop.
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    Optimizing images for web -
    Fireworks - excellent
    Photoshop - Fair

    These discusions always come down to peoples preference between Adobe and Macromedia products and what they are familiar and comfortable with.


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    I hope you understand that you comparing Photoshop and Fireworks is the same as comparing apples and bananas. Both apples and bananas are fruit, but they are quite different from each other.
    This is the same with Fireworks and Photoshop. Both are image manipulation programs capable of editing and creating images. Yet, Photoshop was meant as image and photo editing software, whereas Fireworks focusses on image optimization for the web.

    As you can see, both have different goals, and to my opinion they excel in these goals. For editing images and photos I would choose Photoshop, but to create images for the web my vote will go out to Fireworks. This does not mean Photoshop is not the right tool for the job, I just like Fireworks better as a tool for this.

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    And I can tell you... mark knows his fruit!

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    Hey, I work on the fruit and vegetable section of a supermarket. I have to know something about my work don't I ? And fruit is yummy. My favourite snack .

    yesWebmaster, don't be discouraged by my above post. I think it is still possible to write an article comparing the two, just as long as you get some confusing points out of the way and make sure the reader is aware of the difference.

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    Re: Need Opinions on Photoshop, Fireworks

    I've used both programs a lot and I mean a lot. Here are my reviews

    Drawing :
    -- Photoshop : HORRIBLE!
    -- Fireworks : Great

    Photographs :
    -- Photoshop: Excellent
    -- Fireworks : Horrible

    Ease of Use:
    -- Photoshop : 3 Hours or less learning curve
    -- Fireworks : 1 hour or less learning curve

    JavaScript
    -- Photoshop : N/A (ImageReady is not counted)
    -- Fireworks : Great you kinda can't get any better

    Web Object
    -- Photoshop : Great
    -- Fireworks : Even better PNG FILE EXTENSION BABY!

    Overall
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    Photoshop is the better design tool for many things. I use Photoshop all the time. As for Fireworks I just usually use it to create buttons or some simple JavaScript things.

    Photoshop : 9
    Fireworks : 8
    Illustrator : 10+++


    Originally posted by yesWebmaster
    Hello Everyone,

    I'm writing an article for my web site comparing Photoshop to Fireworks, and would like everyone's opinion that wants to give it to me.

    These are my views, I know not everyone will agree, if you agree, or disagree, let me know.

    Drawing
    Photoshop-Bad
    Fireworks-Worse

    Photographs
    Photoshop-Outstanding
    Fireworks-Decent/Poor

    Ease Of Use
    Photoshop-Easy
    Fireworks-More difficult to learn than Photoshop, but not too difficult

    Javascript Features(ie. Rollovers, etc.)
    Photoshop-Good??????????
    Fireworks-Great

    Web Objects(ie. navbars, headers, banners, etc.)
    Photoshop-Good
    Fireworks-Great

    Overall
    Photoshop-best for using photographs and turning them into outstanding graphics with near endless possibilities.
    Fireworks-best for nav bars, key is using shapes, limited ability when working with photographs.

    I know chances are you won't agree with everything I've written above, and may not agree with any of it at all, let me know YOUR opinion.

    Thank you for everyone's time,

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    i would agree with Mark T. I use both programs extensively, but each has their own functions when creating websites. but, i would never use fireworks for anything to do with print.

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    i think a fairer comparison would be imageready vs. fireworks.

    forlon...photoshop DOES do PNG as well (without imageready)
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    I know PNG 8/24. Just Fireworks does a much beter job. I should of said something like that before

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    hi yesWebmaster,
    I have something to say about your comparison. I personally think you can't just compare like this. Like
    Drawing
    Photoshop-Bad
    Fireworks-Worse

    Photographs
    Photoshop-Outstanding
    Fireworks-Decent/Poor
    For some people, Photoshop is better, for others Fireworks is better. You really can't compare both software. It depends on your experience with it, your skills using it, etc, etc...
    For exemple, I have over 3 years experience in working with Fireworks, I will surely do something better than someone else who have 2 years experience in photoshop. Or, maybe, I can even do better than someone else who have even 3 years experience in using photoshop.
    For others, maybe Fireworks is easier to understand ( like for me ) , than photoshop.
    I can also draw much better things in Fireworks than in Photoshop.

    Try to think about it, and, just some advise, don't just compare both software so objectivly.
    Try to be subjective, and most important, try to seperate this survey into different categories of people. For exemple, for a begginer, maybe Photoshop is better, but for professionals like us, fireworks is more powerful.

    Overwise, I like your idea,
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    I use fireworks and photshop both daily as part of my job and I love them both!

    When I need something for Print, photoshop is my first and only choice.

    If I need something for the web, then I use both, sometimes bringing in bitmaps to fireworks from photoshop or creating them from scratch *in* fireworks.

    I don't really use imageready too much because if you use it "standalone" it's missing many features that Fireworks MX integrates. And if I use it "integrated" with photoshop, then I have to futz around with constantly switching between the two programs to get stuff done. Not to mention, running the PS/imageready combo simultaneously is a much larger resource hit on your computer than just running fireworks by itself. I don't really have anything against imageready, but the clumsiness of using it with photoshop puts me off...


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