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    Freelancer Job in Content Writing

    Can anyone provide me some details of where to look for a freelancer job in content writing?

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    the below three are the best

    1. Getafreelancer.com
    2. Odesk
    3. Elance

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    I know only Odesk and getafreelancer. As a writer, I would reccomend Odesk. Getafreelancer is full of buyers who are out to under-pay and shaft writers. The general standard of buyer and service provider there is also pretty shoddy by Odesk standards. The Odesk way, I refer to the aptitude tests etc, is great, inasmuch the service provider is able to test their aptitudes and abilities, and the buyer is able to assess the quality of the service provider as well.

    Bottom line, imho, forget GAF, and make the effort to get your Odesk profile sorted out.

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    Thanks for your suggestions webapprater and tonyflanigan however i am still confused over the payment issue with these sites...do anyone of you got any experience working with them.

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    I do NOT recommend freelancer websites like that, I used to do work on them and they always end up as bidding playgrounds for low quality junk being exported by the cheapest bidder from eastern nations. Sorry to say it but I've yet to find a freelancer website which really does a good job at maintaining the quality of job listings and professionals who take part. If you want to write content professionally, your best bet would be to start a blog and monetize on it (until you have enough experience to be able to get a job with an established blog, magazine or community).

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    Thanks for the suggestion AlexDawson, I will try to so start my own blog instead of doing some freelancer job. I know it will be difficult to generate revenue from the blog but still as per your suggestion it looks better then the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    I do NOT recommend freelancer websites like that, I used to do work on them and they always end up as bidding playgrounds for low quality junk being exported by the cheapest bidder from eastern nations. Sorry to say it but I've yet to find a freelancer website which really does a good job at maintaining the quality of job listings and professionals who take part. If you want to write content professionally, your best bet would be to start a blog and monetize on it (until you have enough experience to be able to get a job with an established blog, magazine or community).
    I am 100% agree with AlexDawson. Instead of writing articles for someone you can write for yourself. Learn SEO properly and then start your own blog. Once your blog started to get traffic, monetize it. Initially you won't make money but in long term you will make more money.

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    Heya chdutta!

    I also, to a degreee, agree with dawson. There is a load of cr@p out on the web. I may step on a few toes here, but imho rent-a-coder and getafreelancer suck. They exist purely and solely to extort freelancers.

    We are with getafreelancer and Odesk. We visit gaf regularly to remind ourselves of what is being done to freelancers. For pete's sake, so what if they're from India or Philipines, they ARE ONLY trying to make a living, yet buyers go out of their way to rip them off.

    Fortunately, when starting at Odesk, we had a strategy, implemented it, and it is paying off. We have a few very satisfied niche clients providing ongoing work. We do also have our own blog, for which we write our own content.

    I must add that the general work quality from RaC and gaf is pathetic.

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    kickstartyourforums.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=50

    They're sometimes looking for people. Apply to a bunch of those services. Ask them if you can keep the copies for your portfolio as well. Pay not be too great but it's a start. If you really want to take this somewhere get a portfolio of your best work, get some stuff published by yourself and contact some local magazines to review your work.
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    tonyflanigan, not to aim this at you personally, but it worries me to some extent you recommend using oDesk (another one of the freelancer no-go areas IMO) and then back that up with a VERY poorly written response. For someone claiming to be a content writer recommending those kinds of websites (with such a poor use of the English language - spelling, grammar and even in readability) it pretty much backs up why I tell people never to use those kinds of services.

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    Hi, this is Rod from Rent a Coder.

    I'd like to point out that our service protects online workers more than any other service available. oDesk doesn't offer arbitration at all, which could prevent you from getting rightfully paid for the work you do, and (2) workers on Odesk cannot place more than 2 bids a month unless they take certain Odesk tests, or receive feedback on a certain number of projects.

    We offer arbitration on all projects free of charge. We also prevent abusive buyers from stalling the start of arbitration. As a result, 45% of our arbitrations are completed under a day. 75% under a week. Plus we additionally publicize the detailed rules of how our arbitrators make their decisions. Some other services don't make that information public. We also offer free and unlimited bidding.

    I think if you compare us to oDesk and the other major services through this link, you'll learn lot more about how we work hard to protect our workers: http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder...orSellers.aspx

    If you have any questions, please let me know. You can also call in to talk to a facilitator 7 days a week, or email us (see http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/Feedback.asp).

    Rod
    Last edited by Varelse; Feb 18, 2010 at 17:13. Reason: faux signature removed, please read the forum rules

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    hmmmm....

    @AlexDawson.

    Mr Dawson, sir, before commenting on my usage of the (British) Queens chosen language, I would suggest that you correct your own language. It is a fact, that those who profess the greatest familiarity with a language, are often the very persons who corrupt it the most.

    Lol, not personal, but don't criticize colloquilism (sp?) and slang if you yourself implement it. And I won't hold it against you that you don't dig oDesk. We have had great results from it, and possibly the biggest bonus there is that South Africans can use it.

    Apart from the more realistic rates prevalent on oDesk

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    @RodSmith

    With all due respect Rod, I could never take a comparative study seriously if it were put together by the person(s) who stand to gain from it. A link to an independent survey would work for me.

    Pls accept as a kinda peace offering

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    tonyflanigan, don't take this the wrong way but your comments don't add anything to the discussion. The state of my English does not reflect whatsoever on the validity of my claims, and I certainly haven't claimed to be a specialist in the English language, it happens to be something I struggle with (Dyslexia). I've found a very real correlation between people who use sites like oDesk, guru (et al) and the degradation in the overall quality of the work. Using my own use of English as a discrediting statement is a straw-man argument in the same way as claiming because you don't have children, you cannot know anything about them.

    PS: If you want to talk semantic correctness, it's not the "Queens" English in the slightest, she neither invented or owns the rights to the language and back when the language was formed, the English monarchy (if formed) would have certainly been ruled over by a "King" (if my history is correct).

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    Heya Alex!

    I'm not going to get involved in a scrap.

    My original comment on this thread reflected my opinions on the topic matter under discussion, as per the question raised by the poster of this thread. If you have a problem with oDesk, or with me, that is your privilege.

    As far as I am concerned, our (now off-topic) discussion is closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    tonyflanigan, don't take this the wrong way but your comments don't add anything to the discussion.
    tonyflanigan has presented his opinion of those freelancer sites mentioned. I found his opinion interesting. In my opinion, his comments do add something to the discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    The state of my English does not reflect whatsoever on the validity of my claims, and I certainly haven't claimed to be a specialist in the English language, it happens to be something I struggle with (Dyslexia).
    If I remember correctly, you were the one who started this criticism of English usage, so you really shouldn't play the victim here.

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    Since RodSmith of Rent a Coder posted his first comment on this thread we have been involved in private dialogue.

    I hereby sincerely apologise to Rod, and the staff at RaC, for creating any misconceptions regarding their business.

    My problem with them started when I read a post here:
    http://www.webdesign.org/web-design-...aled.5236.html and assumed their acceptance and approval of this article. In a response from RaC they said to me, and I quote:"...we encourage under-qualified service providers or participate in buyer exploitation because we don't."

    Other matters were raised by both parties, and dealt with. I have been to the RaC site again, and shall in due course, when the workload situation warrants, sign up there.

    This apology has not been made under any terms or conditions, and is freely given, without promise or intimation of any reward.

    Once again, Nicole and Rod, my apologies.

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    I have used RAC. Minor problems there are the low bid requests such as twenty 500 word articles in four days for under $100.00. Another glitch I find at RAC is their mis-understanding of "work for hire" and copyright protection for the seller.
    However, you can work around that and if you persevere you can find some decent bid requests. After that, it's how you sell your skills to the buyer that determines whether or not you 'win' a project.
    If (when?) my workload permits, I am going to look further into several other sites that I rarely see mentioned. 1) Constant Content and 2)Freelance success and 3)designquote.net

    I also wrote an article that may help you find work at freelance sites.
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    I don't recommend the freelance website, they are full of fraund buyers, who mostly donot pay after work and flee like a rat after the completion of work. Market yourself personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    I don't recommend the freelance website, they are full of fraund buyers, who mostly donot pay after work and flee like a rat after the completion of work. Market yourself personally.
    I agree fully with the personal marketing. However, to maintain a flow of work we often use freelance websites. Responsible bidding, at decent rates, and checking the buyer out before accepting a job are critical. We have had excellent results, through applying due diligence when applying for, or accepting work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyflanigan View Post
    I know only Odesk and getafreelancer. As a writer, I would reccomend Odesk. Getafreelancer is full of buyers who are out to under-pay and shaft writers. The general standard of buyer and service provider there is also pretty shoddy by Odesk standards. The Odesk way, I refer to the aptitude tests etc, is great, inasmuch the service provider is able to test their aptitudes and abilities, and the buyer is able to assess the quality of the service provider as well.

    Bottom line, imho, forget GAF, and make the effort to get your Odesk profile sorted out.
    I know this thread is like 2 months old, but I'd like to get my word in about GAF. GAF is one good way to meet potential long term clients, really. If you do good work, chances are these clients would contact you over and again, and allow you to have some negotiation power as to how you want to get paid. Also, try only those with real good reputations, as GAF provides a buyer rating system to be displayed under the buyer's usernames.

    Am not really into Odesk, so I can't compare.

    But be sure to check out essaywriters.net. They have some good projects for academic research and paper writers.

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    Here are a couple of other places to check out:
    http://www.articlez.com/
    http://www.warriorforum.com/
    http://www.freelancejobsearch.com/
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24
    http://articlestrade.com/

    IMHO you should set up your own site to showcase a portfolio of your abilities. You could also specialize in writing for a niche.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyflanigan View Post
    @RodSmith

    With all due respect Rod, I could never take a comparative study seriously if it were put together by the person(s) who stand to gain from it. A link to an independent survey would work for me.

    Pls accept as a kinda peace offering
    I use rentacoder regularly as a buyer and also a worker.
    Would recommend it to the end over any other.

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    o desk is good but you can also get good content writer on digital point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colocated View Post
    Thanks for your suggestions webapprater and tonyflanigan however i am still confused over the payment issue with these sites...do anyone of you got any experience working with them.
    I do, usually these sites will charge the person winning the project bid a percentage from the project cost. More often than not, the employer places the money in an escrow (I think it is the safest way for both parties), then once the project is completed the escrow is released and the employee gets paid. The person can then transfer the funds to their paypal account.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    I do NOT recommend freelancer websites like that, I used to do work on them and they always end up as bidding playgrounds for low quality junk being exported by the cheapest bidder from eastern nations. Sorry to say it but I've yet to find a freelancer website which really does a good job at maintaining the quality of job listings and professionals who take part.
    I have to AGREE that GAF is overcrowded with people looking for bargain jobs. I often feel like I am at a fleamarket when I am there. Although I have found quality workers, the VAST MAJORITY, are full of it. They talk the talk but can't walk the walk.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    tonyflanigan, don't take this the wrong way but your comments don't add anything to the discussion. The state of my English does not reflect whatsoever on the validity of my claims, and I certainly haven't claimed to be a specialist in the English language, it happens to be something I struggle with (Dyslexia). I've found a very real correlation between people who use sites like oDesk, guru (et al) and the degradation in the overall quality of the work. Using my own use of English as a discrediting statement is a straw-man argument in the same way as claiming because you don't have children, you cannot know anything about them.

    PS: If you want to talk semantic correctness, it's not the "Queens" English in the slightest, she neither invented or owns the rights to the language and back when the language was formed, the English monarchy (if formed) would have certainly been ruled over by a "King" (if my history is correct).
    Sorry, I had to point out that you made me laugh. I too struggle with Dyslexia, but am proud to say it has not been an impediment for my success!!!
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