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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    I can't count the number of threads (for example one on sitemaps) where abut 30 people give a dictionary definition of what a sitemap is - not offering anything remotely useful post the issue being resolved.
    Yes, and I have seen the word genious used about people that have not written anything new about object oriented programming (simula with multiple inheritance around 1965) and design patterns (BETA around the mid 1990). For further information see the oop link in my signature before ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    Too often I see people regurgitating old threads from the bowels of the forums adding responses which make no sense, offer nothing new to the discussion and are pointless on the basis that the thread starters are likely to have resolved the problem or will have moved onto something else.
    AlexDawson, be aware though that while the thread starter might have moved onto something else, other members learn great deal by just following the discussion. So any post explaining the original question in a different way come as welcome illumination for some members lurking behind the scene. So I think posts should be kept open as long as people add something meaningful to the discussion. If the new additions are pure fluff, I am sure Sitepoint staffers would notice and try to remove it. Closing posts in short period of time is not a good idea. If they are so quickly closed, people open new threads of similar nature. Had the older posts been open, new threads would have been unnecessary. Put it differently, far fewer posts would have been started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rageh View Post
    As long as people add something meaningful to the discussion, I think posts should be kept open. If they are closed quickly, people open new threads of similar nature. Had the older posts been open, new threads would have been unnecessary. Put it differently, far fewer posts would have been started.
    It would probably be simpler for a moderator to merge the two threads than it would be to locate and remove all the spam that can get added to old threads. The number of spam posts to really old threads greatly exceeds the number of meaningful posts added to those threads.
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    Seems like a good idea to me...
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    Good policy.. but.. if someone put link in profiles page. they can get backlink or not ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyp View Post
    Good policy.. but.. if someone put link in profiles page. they can get backlink or not ?
    It's no follow on the profile to your left there, but I'll have to check to find out what the link on your actual profile page would look like.

    Again: The purpose of this forum is discussion, not backlink farming.
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    Perhaps all links throughout the site could be made no follow.
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    Profile pages are only accessible while logged in by default, search engines never saw those links. The homepage link in the dropdown when you click a member name on a post is already nofollow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    You know what I want to see Dan? Threads with no replies over a period of a month automatically become closed.
    I agree with that.... each time I need to check if I'm replying to an old post maybe two years old that it comes up do to someone else reply before me. Quite confusing.
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    i'm Chinese,my English is not well,i can't understand most of this,can you translate it in Chinese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfjn1 View Post
    i'm Chinese,my English is not well,i can't understand most of this,can you translate it in Chinese?
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    Yeah, Dats what you have done a correct thing. I hope now people will understand this and start posting their true opinions than junk posts.

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    most people are paid posters so they do any type either to reach 100 posts.
    I may think this spammers may now start creating accounts to use them later.
    can you tell what do you do at this stage.
    BTW this is very good thing to keep spammers far away

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb225 View Post
    most people are paid posters
    no, they are not
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    Quote Originally Posted by r937 View Post
    no, they are not
    how do you know ?
    I have seen in getafreelancer and in odesk some people asks to create accounts on forums and post them to relevant topic for getting backlinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb225 View Post
    how do you know ?
    because i wasn't born yesterday

    besides, the onus is on you to prove your statement is true, not on me to prove it's not true
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    by the way, you will get no backlinks here at sitepoint forums -- search engines cannot see the signatures at all
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    I was just reading this post (last repl)
    I would mind more on content then in link.... believe me....

    1) 90 days will not solve big issues... spammers will open several account s as always and wait 90 days..... if you have to do set also a limit (let say 100) in post numbers, is far better.

    2) closing old post as AlexDawson suggest is really a good idea.... sometimes if i did not check i risk to reply to something already fossilized! so it helps to keep out spammers and make easier reply to fresh post

    3) delete member non active since years also...


    I guess serious posters mind on content...

    Just few days ago I decided to be 'out of here' from a forum (no i will not name it for privacy) because too much heavily moderated they not allowed me to post easily as i like to do.... they was going on deleting my posts for one reason or another... I respect their way but is not my way nor is how I like or intend a forum to be, so I just drop it, but they did allowed me to use signature...

    In the same day another forum after 90 post decided on their own to allowed me tu use sig and links in my post because just realized that if I was still there posting seriously I was not a spammer. They have a combined way... a minimum time limit that is 100 days if I rememebr well plus a minimum post that I guess is 150. ... bust as you see finally is discretional.

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    Good call on this policy. Maybe PM new members as they join to make clear the policy?

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    Well I can't even see the option where to put a signature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelRay View Post
    Well I can't even see the option where to put a signature.
    You wont yet Michael, after 90 days the link will activate in your profile
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    Quote Originally Posted by r937 View Post
    by the way, you will get no backlinks here at sitepoint forums -- search engines cannot see the signatures at all
    This is bad to thos who contribute in forums since they even dont get traffic from guest to their signature links.you should have to think about your old members instead of just making nofollow

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    actually you do get traffic - real traffic, people who click the link because they want to not faceless robots or spam junkies.
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    The reason that privilege was restricted was because people started spamming the forums in order to get backlinks, and therefore the quality of the forum suffered as a result. If you want to blame someone, don't blame SitePoint, blame the spammers who took advantage and forced those in charge to respond by revoking the ability. Yes, guests won't see your links, but members can and they can click if you provide something interesting for them to want to follow up!

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    yes every forum or a website gets spam but one should need to control this spam.all members didnt done wrong things only that spammers have did and still they do.
    every country has a police department for scammers means they need to catch scammers instead of good peoples.I dont bother about this nofollow or dofollow but you should make something for the old members.


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