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    gr8 thumb rules.

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    If in one year no post ok... account suspended, eventually the possibility to re-activate it sending email asking.
    Workable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by impunjabians View Post
    Workable!
    Apparently not.

    From what I have heard there are people who opened an account and are constantly active using that account for access to the marketplace and who never make any posts to the forum at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by felgall View Post
    Apparently not.

    From what I have heard there are people who opened an account and are constantly active using that account for access to the marketplace and who never make any posts to the forum at all.
    Ok but in case of not one single login in 1 year???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post
    An eCommerce site can't just go deleting its users as it creates referential integrity issues with their order history. You never know when you'll need to go back and look at someone's orders, whether it's for customer service or a tax audit.
    I perfectly know what you mean.. PHP script will mess up all over! deletion is impossible... it can be done with few posts only.
    A suspension is the solution.... also reversable, why not. But this is not the proposal to decide of now... what about sig?

    100 post
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    never ????????

    can we make a pool?
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    Hmm. I don't know about you guys and girls but I'm reading all these post replies about different ways of going about the same sticky situation - I don't know how they (Moderators, Administrators, Staff, etc) went about it internally but clearly they've decided this method would be the best and they've just announced it.

    If they wanted us to have a vote on different methods of how to control this signature and fluff post situation then I think they would have asked for our input before they took action.

    I for one am happy that they went ahead and took action as soon as they possibly could. And if they did have discussions internally between the various staff then I also think that is the best way for such a policy as this one - The staff do a damn good job of keeping these forums in a good and healthy shape so I think we can be comfortable in the knowledge that they know what they're doing and whatever they are doing is best for the forums.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtphotoasiA View Post
    But this is not the proposal to decide of now... what about sig?

    100 post
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    never ????????

    can we make a pool?
    It's really cool that you guys are interested enough in this problem that you're all willing to put your ideas in!

    However, as AndrewCooper alluded to, this is something to be decided amongst the staff, rather than by the community. That's not to say we're not interested in lots of ideas -- far from it! Ideas are great.
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    Sure raena...

    Poll can be done then the staff in sitepoint will decide what is better to them... poll is just a tool for you to have a view from membes side
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    Excellent - if it helps to prevent the spammers coming here, then great.

    But surely, after 90 days their sig will still show anyway ?

    I still think my sig is the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dez View Post
    But surely, after 90 days their sig will still show anyway ?
    They'd have to come back to the forum after the 90 days in order to add the sig since they can't add it before that. At least some of the spammers will forget to come back at the end of the three months.
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    A pity, but a great idea. I'll support anything to get rid of spam cr@p.

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    It does seem like a good idea but 90 days does look a little on the harsh side but 60 days may have been better.

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    We use 90 days and 150 posts. It definitely curbs the noobs doing it by hand, but there's still the automated things that continue regardless because they just "set it and forget it" anyways. These aren't tough to spot by the time they hit 150 posts though because they almost always have a one-sided pattern of participation.

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    Get 'er done. The damn spammers are making me very impatient. SP hosts, in my experience, the single best set of Web design and coding forums on the Interwebz, but in the last few months we've been inundated with spammers and knuckleheads who make a few generic posts, lard up the threads with idiot comments, and in general drag the level of commentary and relevance way, way down.

    Too bad a "report as idiot" button would be gravely misused....

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    What about a minimum post count too? Something really high like 100 so people will think twice before registering just to spam.

    By the way, as a gesture of support for the new policy, I have decided to remove my signature from this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joebert View Post
    We use 90 days and 150 posts. It definitely curbs the noobs doing it by hand, but there's still the automated things that continue regardless because they just "set it and forget it" anyways. These aren't tough to spot by the time they hit 150 posts though because they almost always have a one-sided pattern of participation.
    Quote Originally Posted by corbyboy View Post
    What about a minimum post count too? Something really high like 100 so people will think twice before registering just to spam.
    The issue with postcounts is that it makes a happy little target that can encourage the wrong sorts of people to spread fluff and garbage everywhere.

    We do already have some protection from bots too.
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    fantastic

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    cool great rules
    But I hope we wont have what the cynic side of Rudy predicted!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raena View Post
    The issue with postcounts is that it makes a happy little target that can encourage the wrong sorts of people to spread fluff and garbage everywhere.
    That's funny, the number one complaint we get from those sorts of people just happens to be about the high post count requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raena View Post
    [SIZE="4"]
    We all notice those fluffy, pointless junk posts littering the forums from people who sign up just to spread backlinks. Lots of those people are not even here to participate -- they just post junk in the hope that either a search engine or actual users will come along and hit up their sites.
    Personally I am a link collector, but collecting links since the mid 90's I am very selective on what I collect. And I have ranked first on Google for more than a year for the term

    advanced semantic linking

    even if that is not the exact anchor text of the link.

    Quote Originally Posted by raena View Post
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    Those of you who are here to be part of our community for the right reasons will hopefully understand. It's a shame that junk posters have spoiled it for the rest of us. I'm sorry.
    Personally I am on forums to give and take.

    Links::: Life or death of your eBusiness.

    IMO producing, semantic links can be done better by a combination of manual and automatic systems. But I see your points, SitePoint is mainly an educational web site. I have seen some of my own posts from SitePoint high in the SERP's.

    By this simple query

    kgun xml site:sitepoint.com

    you find a trial set of search terms.

    An example of how another forum has solved the problem:

    Can WPW bring (in)direct traffic to your site?

    I find some good sites and pages in forum signature links.

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    that is the good staph only sincere and serious visitors will participate not spammer

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    I will draw your intention to this

    http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI

    short classic article. In addition, today I found another example of a thread of mine:

    Search term

    the mobile revolution

    On the first SERP page: Results 1 - 10 of about 30,900,000 for the mobile revolution.

    Any reason that the other hits are more relevant / semantic?

    Note: it bumped from the third to the 10 position after my update today. There may not be a short term advantage in updating articles and forum posts. Hopefully there will be a long term advantage in posting relevant and meaningful content to the web in a structured form like an updated forum post / article.

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    This isn't a thread about SEO.

    And the SitePoint forums are here for discussion, not as a PageRank farm, and not as a traffic driver.
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    my favourite post on the internet."

    We'll miss you, Dan Schulz.

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    I agreed, many people misuse the sign link and start posting spam.I think its a good move!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raena View Post
    This isn't a thread about SEO.

    And the SitePoint forums are here for discussion, not as a PageRank farm, and not as a traffic driver.
    I assume that those remarks were aimed at my above posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by raena View Post
    This isn't a thread about SEO.
    Indirectly it is since it is about links. My above posts mentioned examples. There are other examples like WMW that don't allow links at all (although they are not consistent) .

    Quote Originally Posted by raena View Post
    And the SitePoint forums are here for discussion, not as a PageRank farm, and not as a traffic driver.
    Agree to that.

    Then, why not disallow all links ?

    Posting without allowing links is like driving in the dark without lights.

    Have the rules changed already? More precisely are there any problems with my signature?
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