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    Quote Originally Posted by petweis View Post
    sorry folks; it's a colossal waste of time. The average 10 year old can do this in 15 minutes, after having been shown HTML Tables just once. <snip>
    Not quite. You cannot make a semantic, well structured, and well formed example of the content using tables. Period.

    You are welcome to post your attempt, though. (moderators may choose to create a new thread to this purpose)

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    Quote Originally Posted by petweis View Post
    sorry folks; it's a colossal waste of time. The average 10 year old can do this in 15 minutes, after having been shown HTML Tables just once. It's child's play. Saying Tables can only be used for tabular date is like saying you can't use a bulldozer to level a derelict building and clear the lot because bulldozers can only be used to doze bulls. And you're supposed to use a bamboo lawn rake - used for creating patterns in sand - instead. And Tables work in every browser ever made; you don't even have to check.
    I'm sorry but quiz one can't actually be done with tables at all. Tables are simply too rigid to accomplish this feat in any manner (as would they be for most of the other quizzes also).

    As mentioned by the others above that is not the point of these quizzes at all anyway as we are simply exploring the limits of CSS and having fun at the same time solving puzzles.

    This is not a Tables vs CSS debate in any form and was never meant to be. We have no axe to grind here and the quizzes are purely for fun with the added benefit of learning something along the way.

    Therefeore please keep all comments relevant to the quiz in hand otherwise they will be considered off-topic and irrelevant. I don't want this thread to veer away from the task in hand so please don't spoil it for those that enjoy these quizzes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petweis View Post
    sorry folks; it's a colossal waste of time. The average 10 year old can do this in 15 minutes,
    THen do it. Where is your answer to Paul?
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    I have a solution From Ray for Quiz A that works in IE6 and 7 only. Well done Ray and keep working on the other browsers as I'm sure you'll get there.

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    No go I'm keen to see the solutions but you might need to point me in the Right direction

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    i know it has to do with this and that, i also know it involves some mathematical thinking, visually im there, but there is this boundary that i cant manage to cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriKolovsky View Post
    i know it has to do with this and that, i also know it involves some mathematical thinking, visually im there, but there is this boundary that i cant manage to cross.
    lol - so your answer is this :

    ((this + that) x numOfpixels) ^ imagination

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    I'll start throwing clues around tomorrow if no one's close

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    hahah absolutely correct on the wording, but i meant something like this.
    ((this + that) x clearedFloat) ^ imagination
    xD

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    I have a correct solution for Quiz B from Kravvitz - Well done and thanks for the entry

    Quiz A is proving tough although ray has a version for ie6/7 only as mentioned above.

    A small clue is that IE6 and 7 as usual need something different to other browsers so you have to fork the code (I love that phrase) for them.

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    I have a solution for Quiz A from Kravvitz - which like Ray's works for IE6 and 7 only. Well done for getting this far

    I'll start dropping clues tomorrow and all will become clear.

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    OK - time for a big clue as you all seem to be stumped for a solution for all but ie6/7


    What can stop a negative top margin from going any further no matter how big you make it.

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    i am still stumped... i know what does the above in firefox only.
    plus now im also sick! staying in bed all day today.

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    Clue 2.

    A float will be needed somewhere.


    Get better soon Timo.

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    Thanks for the clues Paul. I was not able to work on the quiz the past few days but will continue with it now.

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    Another clue:

    You should be looking at how cleared elements behave when you apply negative top margins to them.

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    but i knew the above from day 1! xD

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    Another Very Big Clue

    Don't look if you want to try yourself as this one will all but give it away.

    Floaty
    non-float
    non-float
    non-float
    non-float(with large negative top margin)
    non-float
    non-float
    non-float
    non-float(with large negative top margin)
    non-float
    non-float
    non-float

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    Solved, I'm a genius but there's a column awol in Opera.

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    It seems to be messed up in Firefox 1.0 too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriKolovsky View Post
    but i knew the above from day 1! xD
    Same

    I haven't had time to work on this and the mere amount of hints given out would make me achieve no satisfaction in completing (considering others would think I looked at the hints to solve)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanReese View Post
    I haven't had time to work on this and the mere amount of hints given out would make me achieve no satisfaction in completing (considering others would think I looked at the hints to solve)
    No hints were given out for IE6/7 so that could be one for you to work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayzur View Post
    No hints were given out for IE6/7 so that could be one for you to work out.
    I'll do it Saturday though I don't see why IE6/7 would be too difficult since I would only have to make sure an element doesnt have something, I won't say more so it isn't a hint (if it is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanReese View Post
    the mere amount of hints given out would make me achieve no satisfaction in completing (considering others would think I looked at the hints to solve)
    Disagree, I still found the exercise satisfying. The first thing I added when I thought of the solution never would have worked - but I never would have thought of doing without it. It's interesting how when you first think on a problem you can get stuck with an idea that blocks a clean solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markbrown4 View Post
    Disagree, I still found the exercise satisfying.
    Perhaps for you it was satisfying but it would not be for me . I could do quiz B since no hints were given out there though
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