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    Who has the official, accurate browser stats?

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    None of them are accurate. You should be looking at the stats for your own site to determine where your market lies.
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    How do you know they are not accurate?

    Our interest is simply to know the browser distribution and our site is not yet live.
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    They are not accurate because it is impossible to get information about every user on the internet and make sure the users are in fact unique. For example there are four unique internet users in my house, but are all counted as one.
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    There is no stats program that can count everyone accessing their pages - any pages cached somewhere between the visitor and the server will never get counted.

    Some stats programs use JavaScript and therefore do not count anyone who doesn't have JavaScript.

    Some stats programs use cookies to identify unique visitors and will therefore count visitors with cookies disabled as a separate visitor for each hit.

    Some stats programs use IP addresses to identify unique visitors and therefore the 10,000 people who all work at the one company count as one visitor while the home user who dials in several times during the day gets counted as several visitors.
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    While their not accurate it's fair to say that they do provide a good general idea about a cohort of users activities, of course not everyone will be part of the statistics but they generally have enough visitors for it to be statistically significant (if the publisher is getting these stats as a provider of analytic software). There's arguably no genuine way to get 100&#37; accurate information about your visitors, even using your own statistics product so a healthy mixture of your own known traffic figures and global ones (to provide a general baseline) is probably the best way to go.

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    The stats that I would look at if they ever were published are those for Google.
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    No statistics representing millions of users are ever based on the entire group. The numbers are based on a sample and a 100&#37; sample size is impossible in this case. Statistics, when the sample size is large enough, can be very close to the full data set. My question about accuracy is not asking for 100% but rather, which of these two resources are you more likely to base your opinions and decisions on with regards to user base and trends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgm_03 View Post
    ... which of these two resources are you more likely to base your opinions and decisions on with regards to user base and trends.
    neither

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    While no statistic can ever be 100&#37; accurate or representative they are useful for providing the "bigger picture" as a starting point.

    Of the two stats services you mentioned I'd use the Hitlinks one as the overall view, the W3schools stats are heavily influenced by web developers etc and browser choices won't match the general everyday user picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgm_03 View Post
    The first one. The second is based on w3schools site alone. Do not be confused and remember that W3Schools is totally unrelated to the W3C.

    While stats of your own web site are the best to use, the first link of yours, and others like it, are a good indication of trends. You can see where everyone is going to and leaving from by following that.

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    What he said. Hitslink has a pretty good sized sample and distribution of websites it tracks.

    There are over a trillion webpages out there. At least a couple hundred million sites. What's your confidence interval with a sample size of 1 and a real population of 100 million? You can't even calculate it -- there's no way to call one little website representative of all traffic to 100 million websites. So ignore the W3Schools numbers.

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    I tend to use the Wikipedia statistics, they gather from a mixture of sources including TheCounter, OneStat, NetApplications, ADTECH and W3Counter... not sure why they don't have hitslink but still, it's a good collaboration of demographics to use in comparisons...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_s...f_web_browsers

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    I tend to use the Wikipedia statistics, they gather from a mixture of sources including TheCounter, OneStat, NetApplications, ADTECH and W3Counter... not sure why they don't have hitslink but still, it's a good collaboration of demographics to use in comparisons...
    HitsLink is a NetApplications website.

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    Also, what is your site for? If it is for web developers, you have to think about your audience. I have 5 browsers installed on my system. I should probably have one other installed, just because. I bounce between two usually and sometimes 3...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post
    HitsLink is a NetApplications website.
    Oh, thank's for the clarification Dan Funny I hadn't realised that!

    I agree with using NetApp's data also, it's definitely one of the better demographics sources.


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