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    Post Yii, Symfony, Kohana, Akelos, Lion - (Lesser Used) PHP Framework Discussion

    Lesser used and/or newer Frameworks:


    Common and/more more established Frameworks:


    Try to keep the discussion about your experiences with the lesser used frameworks. Mini-reviews and/or experience reports would be awesome and much appreciated!!
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    i have used common framework u have said and symfony...
    codeigniter is light one compared to other and has still to develop
    cakephp seems to be good for moderate apps...learning curve is also ok
    zend seems to unnecessarily heavy...and i feel it is dot net in php

    symfony has been made unnecessarily complex...i really donot want to program in it...it really need some re look if it is to flourish
    personal thoughts

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    I have used only CakePHP, Symfony and Zend.

    Today, I use only Zend. I have found it's robust enough for any tasks I have encountered.

    I liked Symfony, too. What drove me away was the fact that it was developing so rapidly the documentation couldn't hold up with the current version very well (it took quite a long time after new release for the documentation to catch up) and it contained many erroneous examples.

    I used CakePHP only for a short period of time (few days) and I didn't like it very much (for no apparent reason).

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    What's nice about Symfony's documentation is that it's versioned. You can choose to use a stable branch of the framework, like 1.1 or 1.2, and view the complete documention for version 1.1 or 1.2. There is an entire version of the book (to view online, download as a PDF or print), and the API reference, for each version.

    Symfony is not new and powers such large sites as delicious.com (del.icio.us), Yahoo! Answers and Yahoo! Bookmarks. I used it in creating W3ROI and W3Counter, which have over 30000 active users and process hundreds of millions of page views per month. It's stable, performant, easily extensible and a pleasure to code on top of, for me at least.

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    I should point out that my own observation is CodeIgniter, CakePHP, and Zend are the most widely used and thus that's how I based the groupings in the OP

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post
    Symfony
    How does it compare to CodeIgniter/CakePHP? Symfony and Yii are in my targets as the next framework I'd like to work with
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    CI were the first framework I used and now I use Yii .
    I like Yii better since it has active record implementation and better as I understand db related classes(CodeIgniter uses a modified version of the Active Record Database Pattern.-docs), better form validation,authentication etc.
    Generally I like better how Yii is organised ,also CI has some classes (as zip class and shopping class at latest version) that Yii do not have but anyway with Yii as any framework you may use external classes.
    At the upcoming 1.1 of Yii they will have a set of official extensions for yii.
    I was reading about cakephp, I like it.
    Symfony is I thing more difficult to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimis283 View Post
    CI Symfony is I thing more difficult to learn.
    it is difficult to learn bcoz it has been made difficult to learn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank1 View Post
    it is difficult to learn bcoz it has been made difficult to learn...
    I'm not sure I'm following the whole
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    Has anybody here worked with Kohana?
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