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    WordPress or Joomla!

    Hi,

    A few months ago I started playing with Joomla! created some templates following the steps in a book and I think I understand it a little bit, I don't think I can create a template right now without having to refer to the book so, now that I need to create a template for someone that needs to be able to make the updates, I was wondering if WordPress would be easier than Joomla! should I be considering to learn it?

    Is WordPress easer than Joomla! when creating templates?

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    Creating themes and the corresponding templates in WordPress is not difficult. I find the theme creation in WordPress a lot more intuitive, but it's for you to try it out and make that comparison.
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    Thank you for your reply!
    Thank you very much!!!

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    Yes, I would say that wordpress is easier. At least it is for me.

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    Can you create any layout in WordPress since it is a blog platform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fs_tigre View Post
    Can you create any layout in WordPress since it is a blog platform?

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    Depends on what you mean by "any" layout I'd guess. As long as it contains a header/footer/background and content area I'd say you can do just about anything you'd like though.

    I used to love Joomla despite never fully understanding how the templates all worked together - but once wordpress let you do pages instead of posts, I use wp for just about everything these days and find the templates a breeze to modify.

    I have no desire to ever create one from scratch, but there are so many excellent templates that are free or inexpensive it's easy to start with one of them and tweak things to get just the look/style that you want.

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    I've tried both Joomla and Wordpress. I my opinion, I would say that Wordpress is more easier to work, but I use both, but what's easier or harder for one person may not be the same for the next person.

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    I was reading some about WordPress themes and it looks like there is more code to create a WordPress theme than what implies to create a Joomla! template at least this is what I think after reading a few tutorials.

    Is this correct it takes more code to create a theme than a template in Joomla!?

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    In WordPress you have to edit around ten files or so. Many of those files are just include files (like header and footer). The reason yo need to edit the files is because you have to add your own HTML elements, unless you're okay with how the HTML elements are structured as a default.

    Have a look at this tutorial: It gives you an idea of how easy/difficult it will be for you to create themes in WordPress. I would recommend that you take WordPress for a test drive. See if you like how it works.
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    Well, what I'm looking for is something that wont take me hours to create a template.

    Is there any limitations in the design part or you can prety much convert any design into a WordPress template even if the web site is not intented to be used as a blog?

    Thanks a lot!
    Thank you very much!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fs_tigre View Post
    Well, what I'm looking for is something that wont take me hours to create a template.

    Is there any limitations in the design part or you can prety much convert any design into a WordPress template even if the web site is not intented to be used as a blog?

    Thanks a lot!
    You can convert any design into a WordPress theme and you can use WordPress for static sites.
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    Thanks a lot.

    Is there any plug-ins that can be used with Dreamweaver?
    Thank you very much!!!

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    There seem to be. I don't use Dreamweaver, so I can't tell you anything about it. A Google search reveals that there are WordPress tools for DW, however.
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    Thank you!

    Now where do you recommend me to start learning WordPress creating themes or learning the basics in the admin area?

    Can you create a layout and make it a functional web page and than converted to a theme after that or what are the steps you guys usually use?

    Thanks a lot
    Thank you very much!!!

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    That is correct. I always code my design independently from any CMS. Hence, my steps would be:


    1. Design visual concept
    2. Create individual pages with HTML & CSS
    3. Download all files necessary for creating my theme
    4. Implement HTML structure into any CMS (in your case, WordPress) and upload edited files back onto the server



    You will, of course, need to get comfortable with the administration area. However, I'd learn via WordPress' codex.

    Some important things to read before getting your hands dirty:


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    Very nice this is what I was looking for! Thank you all very much!

    Download all files necessary for creating my theme
    What do you mean with this?

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    i am a joomla Developer and my vote will always be towards joomla.

    joomla is so simple to get the things out...
    i would definitely go with joomla.

    but yes in previous few days i was in need to get a magento template and it was like winning a world war for me.

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    If do blog i think use WordPress are better than Joomla, wordpress is easier
    If do forum Joomla are better, but harder.

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    Thank you all for your comments!
    Thank you very much!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fs_tigre View Post
    Very nice this is what I was looking for! Thank you all very much!



    What do you mean with this?

    Thanks

    I mean the files that are stored on your server. You can, off course, do it offline via a local server as well. I usually duplicate an existing theme, download the files necessary, edit them live in my favourite editor & save my changes (uploading them back).
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    If you have only blog then I will prefer to go for Wordpress but if you want to implement another additional features and want to make a complete website with CMS functionality then I will prefer to go for Joomla. You will find a hugh range of components and modules in Joomla.

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    Thanks a lot!
    Thank you very much!!!

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    Wordpress forever! (dreamweaver)

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    I will personally go with wordpress than joomla


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