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    I need that dope stuff (to CMS or not to CMS)

    I don't know whether what I need is too specialised for a CMS already on the market or very open and wide. Let me describe my situ and vision.

    I have a website which was WordPress based, but I did not post enough stuff, or use any of its features apart from creating and updating core pages which don't generally change, I used the blogging not very often for updates. I then thought why do I need all this clutter, I want lightweight pages and do not have a lot of stuff to warrant the over heads of WordPress.

    So instead I went to pure xHTML, static made pages. Crazy eh? I don't even have a uniform navigation? I liked the idea to begin with, I am starting to think it is not expansible.

    The main things I need are an expansible navigation and templating systems, the pages of my website I create are often tests or demos of things mainly for my self, but I need a constant theme across everything, with potentials of adding custom CSS and JS per page along with backend code too. Maybe a front page for announcing new ideas and tests, and a contact page maybe although a hCard on my homepage suffices in my eyes.

    So it is mainly navigation and templating I need, I suppose I could create a JSON sitemap to generate a navigation quickly with multiple levels, I don't mind manually updating sometimes, however having a DB backend with an interface to create shell templated pages perhaps actual files or dynamically created things so that I can develop new pages and things with them and an overview of a homepage.

    I don't think I have made myself very clear so ask away if you want me to clear anything up. I want a solution whether I make it myself or use an existing product, it needs to be lightweight, and malleable.

    Thanks for you time and opinion
    Luke Morton
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    Luke, it is a little hard to nail down exactly what you're trying to achieve, but I think you were probably on the right track with Wordpress. Building something from scratch is a great way to learn, but like anything, you'll probably end up with a bit of a hodgepodge .

    Yes, a prebuilt system will have a lot of overhead and stuff you don't use, but at least you'll have get the benefit of well designed templates and consistent navigation.

    Personally I think I learned more early on by pulling well made sites and seeing how it was done, than starting with blank pages.
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    You have plenty of options, if you want to go absolutely light-weight. You could, for instance, develop your own little CMS app. There are some tutorials on how to do that, if you do a search with your favourite search engine.

    Or you could use any of the PHP/Ruby/Python frameworks out there and build a little application to do exactly what you need.

    You could also just use server-side includes.

    And then you have some lighter CMSes out there, like CMSMS.

    Have you tried a few demos at opensourcecms? Perhaps you'll find something there that accords with your needs.
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    SitePoint Zealot Luke Morton's Avatar
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    I think I might go along the lines of creating a directory organized file system, in which the index page can read, and pull bits of information out via the DOM using SimpleXML since all my pages should be xhtml for the latest pages. Also the navigation could be created dynamically based on the directory structure. With maybe an excludes file listing the pages I do not want listed on navigation or made accessible on the web.

    Just thinking out loud. Thanks for your comments guys but I am definately not looking to use WordPress again, and I can easily implement includes, but I need something with a bit more substance for organiation and navigation.
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    SitePoint Zealot Luke Morton's Avatar
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    Maybe this post should be in a more technical area of the forums, not too sure.
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