flippa.com: It’s Alive!

[wampu]

Why did they do this ?

Do you know how many people around the net are shocked and disapointed by how clueless Sitepoint is for doing this ?

Flippa just looks so crap with it's poor UI and usability.

I loved the Sitepoint Marketplace, Flippa will always be a flop, they should call it Floppa

[diwi]

Flippa goes from beta testing to Life.

But after 1 day I can see that flippa still in test mode (too many bugs, errors etc).

How founders/support can establish buggy marketplace for real trading ???

I don't understand this point.

I sell here over 180 sites but never established for sale unfinished sites like flippa (unfinished beta site).

[hollk]

Real Bad Decision guys.. websites like quikmarket will take up the slack with free listings.. sure it will take time to get a following.. but other startups will now get a chance to explode.. maybe ill hangout at digitalpoint ? or maybe at flippa once they work out the bugs.. we will see in time what happens.. I like sitepoints old design.. simple..

Thats just my opinion..

[mycolumbus]

Hmmm.... I think this is a good opportunity for DigitalPoint to take up the business and look after those who sell sites.

After visiting Flippa, it looks really cheesy. I've used SitePoint many times in the past, but wont be using Flippa at all.

[wibble wobble]

I don't get it. SP are just destroying the Marketplace. First they branched to 99designs, now Flippa, and still keeping the original one on SP?? 3 sites instead of one is just plain stupid.

[Mark Harbottle]

Thanks for all your positive feedback guys. We appreciate it. One thing to keep in mind...

Our buyers aren't going anywhere. They are savvy business people. They don't care about the design of the site or the fact the logo sucks (the current logo is a placeholder BTW), they simply get on with the business of buying, and we've made it alot easier for them to do that on flippa.com.

Meanwhile while you all whine and complain about the fees, the design, etc. the smart sellers are listing their sites on flippa.com and they are attracting the majority of the buyer interest. They will also get the added benefit of the PR we're about to roll out.

So, it's totally up to you! If you want to come across to flippa and sell your site in the professional marketplace we're creating for serious buyers, we welcome you with open arms. If not, please do go to digitalpoint. List your site for free and see if the old adage of "you get what you pay for" applies.

[xsell]

Thanks for all your positive feedback guys. We appreciate it. One thing to keep in mind...

Our buyers aren't going anywhere. They are savvy business people. They don't care about the design of the site or the fact the logo sucks (the current logo is a placeholder BTW), they simply get on with the business of buying, and we've made it alot easier for them to do that on flippa.com.

Meanwhile while you all whine and complain about the fees, the design, etc. the smart sellers are listing their sites on flippa.com and they are attracting the majority of the buyer interest. They will also get the added benefit of the PR we're about to roll out.

So, it's totally up to you! If you want to come across to flippa and sell your site in the professional marketplace we're creating for serious buyers, we welcome you with open arms. If not, please do go to digitalpoint. List your site for free and see if the old adage of "you get what you pay for" applies.

Wow Mark, I like it and yes as a seller, I see it differently, if flippa.com can let my site get SOLD at higher price and highest net profit period. I don't really care about the new fee at all.

I think you must know the user groups between SP and digitalpoint is completely different. I don't know why, I actively sell websites both on sitepoint and digitalpoint

I'm talking about cheap startup site, range between $20-$250, I knew the fact and tested it many times, the same start up site, I can get SOLD in SP for $200, but on digitalpoint people only willing to pay $50 for it. Don't ask me why, all I can say is the user group between them are very different.

For example

If i have a start up site put up for $200 and reduced the new fee : $29, then I still get $171 in my pocket, yes, it is a bit less than before, but still profitable instead of put up on digitalpoint or other marketplace and waiting for $100 bid and make a lot less.

The key is as long as the user group (buyers) still remain the same in Flippa.com, then the fee is worth it still.

I don't care about the fee structure or whatsoever, I only go for the marketplace that can get my site SOLD at highest price period. So far Sitepoint/Flippa is the winner still.

[Mark Harbottle]

Absolutely xsell. Savvy sellers will get that, as you do!

[TalkingWorld]

People expressing their opinions here are long time SitePoint buyers and sellers. Look at their Join Dates. I would recommend SitePoint staff to actually listen to their members rather then labelling them as whiners and complainers. I can understand that you are trying to push for the new site but they way you are handling the feedback is absolutely unprofessional ;

"Dont' whineeee! Fineeeee, go elsewhere and list your sites at DPPPP!!!!"

Indeed you still may have a lot of buyers here due to your great history however I can assure you that those buyers will diminish and disappear if you do not get your whinning sellers to list their sites and keep the activity going at the marketplace.

Thanks for all your positive feedback guys. We appreciate it. One thing to keep in mind...

Our buyers aren't going anywhere. They are savvy business people. They don't care about the design of the site or the fact the logo sucks (the current logo is a placeholder BTW), they simply get on with the business of buying, and we've made it alot easier for them to do that on flippa.com.

Meanwhile while you all whine and complain about the fees, the design, etc. the smart sellers are listing their sites on flippa.com and they are attracting the majority of the buyer interest. They will also get the added benefit of the PR we're about to roll out.

So, it's totally up to you! If you want to come across to flippa and sell your site in the professional marketplace we're creating for serious buyers, we welcome you with open arms. If not, please do go to digitalpoint. List your site for free and see if the old adage of "you get what you pay for" applies.

[hollk]

Mark Harbottle
SitePoint Co-founder

Meanwhile while you all whine and complain about the fees, the design, etc. the smart sellers are listing their sites on flippa.com and they are attracting the majority of the buyer interest. They will also get the added benefit of the PR we're about to roll out.

You go Mark.. that's telling them .. If they dont like then they can leave.. right.. I agree..


Time will tell if your right about that.. Ill sit back and watch.. I do hope you well as there is NO Competition for you.. your the only real game in town..

[MelogKnaj]

Thanks for all your positive feedback guys. We appreciate it. One thing to keep in mind...

Our buyers aren't going anywhere. They are savvy business people. They don't care about the design of the site or the fact the logo sucks (the current logo is a placeholder BTW), they simply get on with the business of buying, and we've made it alot easier for them to do that on flippa.com.

Meanwhile while you all whine and complain about the fees, the design, etc. the smart sellers are listing their sites on flippa.com and they are attracting the majority of the buyer interest. They will also get the added benefit of the PR we're about to roll out.

So, it's totally up to you! If you want to come across to flippa and sell your site in the professional marketplace we're creating for serious buyers, we welcome you with open arms. If not, please do go to digitalpoint. List your site for free and see if the old adage of "you get what you pay for" applies.

I hate to say it but savvy sellers will take their business elsewhere. Sitepoint's initial lack of percentage fees is what made it great. The 5% cut you take means sellers are looking at 10% of their site's value gone after escrow fees and all that jazz. It's just too high to justify paying.

[vihutuo]

My second day with flippa and I find that now everything takes 2+ clicks to do on flippa when you could do the same things with a single click on sitepoint. For eg getting to your shortlist/watchlist now takes 2 clicks . Also the wathclist is sorted in the wrong order , so I have all the expired and old auctions at the top and my most recent watchlist items at the bottom. Non categorization of the auction listings is very confusing. I do not like to click a lot of links/filter just to see the categorization.
Number of comments is not shown in the auction listings. Sometimes I look at an auction if there are a good number of comments for the auction, but now it is not shown at all.
You really need to get rid of the cheesy design.
Just adding round corners and gradient backgrounds do not warrant such a hefty increase in fees

[Mark Harbottle]

Good feedback on the watchlist vihutuo, we should be able to fix that pretty quickly.

[ryanhellyer]

Well read ON you NOW maybe u understand my problem .. I guess it took 25 more mosts like mine.. So now u say to all 25 posts that sah the new format is garbage..

SO u still as the same question.

You must work for sitepoint.. Figures.. Explains why u might Love It ??

I have absolutely no affiliation with SitePoint beyond being a member here. I'm certainly not employed by them; never have been and probably never will be.

[ashish1987]

Its DISGUSTING.
1. I was not informed about this change.
2. My website auction was on number 3 of the Premium Website Sales section and now in flippa, its been brought down to page 6!! This TOTALLY sucks as I got only a couple of views on an auction which was drawing so many comments and PMs two days ago.
What the hell?? We should have been given a choice if we want to shift or not. I vote for the old marketplace to come back.

[azn_romeo_4u]

Man...this is seriously massive fail.

I don't know why you guys keep branching out to crappy domain names. SEriously you guys must have made a lot of money with 99 designs to make flippa.

Design is so noob. Looks like I'm buying from a bunch of spammers.

The marketplace was one of the main reasons I visited sitepoint. Just to see listings and potential buys.

[ryanhellyer]

I suggest those who aren't happy with the new site provide some feedback on how to improve it. I doubt SitePoint are going to bail out of this now, so best improve the new system rather than relying on it reverting to the old system.



It took me a while to figure out how to only view specific categories. I eventually found it via the "PRESET FILTERS" dropbox. Perhaps a more descriptive name would be appropriate? Maybe "Categories" perhaps.

I expected the "Buy It Now" links to be clickable, but they seem to be just text.

[mshaw]

Mark Harbottle
SitePoint Co-founder

Meanwhile while you all whine and complain about the fees, the design, etc. the smart sellers are listing their sites on flippa.com and they are attracting the majority of the buyer interest. They will also get the added benefit of the PR we're about to roll out.

You go Mark.. that's telling them .. If they dont like then they can leave.. right.. I agree..


Time will tell if your right about that.. Ill sit back and watch.. I do hope you well as there is NO Competition for you.. your the only real game in town..

and who are you supposed to be? The odd guy who enjoys the insane 5% or up to $500 fees of high value auctions?

I was with SP when they started charging a fee for listing websites (I thought it would improve quality of sites listed and it did) and I was slightly agitated when you more than doubled the price to $20/listing, but 5% fee for just listing auctions is just not right.


Fees aside, what kind of name FLIPPA is it anyway? sounds like an exclusive site flippers marketplace.

Some members comment about flippa - turnkey cookie cutter 2.0 site - is not an exhaggeration! We need more solid look like SP had just yesterday

[andrew.k]

It took me a while to figure out how to only view specific categories. I eventually found it via the "PRESET FILTERS" dropbox. Perhaps a more descriptive name would be appropriate? Maybe "Categories" perhaps.

Done. Thanks for your constructive input

[ryanhellyer]

Done. Thanks for your constructive input

Flipping flippa that was fast!

[glenngould]

...They are savvy business people. They don't care about the design of the site or the fact the logo sucks (the current logo is a placeholder BTW), they simply get on with the business of buying, and we've made it alot easier for them to do that on flippa.com.

I think this is not true. Business people might not recognize they care about the design/logo but they certainly do. Otherwise what would be the point of designing a logo/website for any brand targeted to business people at all?

[aj510]

Man...this is seriously massive fail.

I don't know why you guys keep branching out to crappy domain names. SEriously you guys must have made a lot of money with 99 designs to make flippa.

Design is so noob. Looks like I'm buying from a bunch of spammers.

The marketplace was one of the main reasons I visited sitepoint. Just to see listings and potential buys.

This is the reason I visited on a daily basis too - ease of use. Flippa's usability sucks but that doesn't annoy me as much as the 5% success fee.

I'd love to see how they plan on getting this fee out of people - new username simple as that...

[bladerunner_23]

I'm a seller & buyer of websites and I think Flippa utterly and totally sucks... for two reasons

The first is that your buyers WILL move away from you. There's no point saying that because we're "savvy business people" we'll just suck up a lame UI and try and put up with it... because we won't. Whoever we are, we all abide by the same human instinct as everyone else, and from spending just 15 minutes on that site, I already feel like I never want to visit it again.

The second is that your new fee system... with this "success fee" is just an insult to injury. Why go down the route of eBay just to squeeze more profit out of us? You want us to pay to list and then pay to sell? Why? Why can't you just keep it at a flat rate like you did before.

So on my part, as a buyer and a seller... I can safely say that I will not be spending any time on Flippa to buy any sites and I will be extremely reluctant to sell sites on there now. Well done....

[bladerunner_23]

I suggest those who aren't happy with the new site provide some feedback on how to improve it. I doubt SitePoint are going to bail out of this now, so best improve the new system rather than relying on it reverting to the old system.



It took me a while to figure out how to only view specific categories. I eventually found it via the "PRESET FILTERS" dropbox. Perhaps a more descriptive name would be appropriate? Maybe "Categories" perhaps.

I expected the "Buy It Now" links to be clickable, but they seem to be just text.

• Change the blue color. It makes the whole site feel clostrophobic - make it clean and white
• Add the information about the sites on the left again instead of the right
• Make the auctions like the old Sitepoint layout - I.E CLEARLY showing what's going on
• Include screenshots of the sites on the listings section
• Make the listings less cluttered - their text is really big and it's annoying how they are all so close together. I need to squint my eyes just to see the individual auctions
• Make a message system for it
• On the homepage, put the features listings with nice big screenshots of the sites. Make it FUN for people to use the site
• Actually list whether a listing has ended or been completed
• Have the seperate CATEGORIES again - not just some lame filters
• Add the ability to "watch" autctions like on ebay.
• Remove those lame buy and sell buttons and replace them with the old categories
• Change the filters from the categories to things like "ending soon", "just listed" and "most expensive" etc

[worthless]

What the hell? That looks horrible.

Bad design, heavy fees, bad UI and bugs.

What were you thinking, SitePoint?

Off to DP I go.