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    what to learn first?

    hi, im a relatively new member here at sitepoint. im very keen to go into website design and programming, im aware of what i have to learn, a quick list would be mysql, php, html and css.

    so what should i start with first?

    should i learn all?

    or learn php and mysql and specialize in it?

    or learn html and css and specialize in it?

    or learn all and specialize in some?

    im a real newbie at this, let me know what you think.

    thanks alot, in advance.

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    learn the basics first...one step at a time mate
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    learn the basics first. theoretical concepts of domain, hosting, seo etc. then start with HTML.

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    It is worth starting with the basic points - HTML, CSS, then study database management and then programming languages. When you are on the way, you will get to know the questions in combination with each other. That is really exciting process by the way

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    HTML/CSS (together), accessibility, information architecture, and usability. Then learn the basics of SEO (so you can start getting free traffic to your site) and copywriting OR a server-side programming language and relational database management system such as PHP and MySQL.

    If you want/need any book recommendations to help get you started (I don't force people to jump into the deep end when starting out) let me know and I'll post them here.

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    Learn Wordpress ! then learn HTML, CSS and then maybe PHP or ASP NET and databases

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    In memoriam gold trophysilver trophybronze trophy Dan Schulz's Avatar
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    You can't use WordPress (as more than a typical user) if you don't learn at the very least HTML and CSS.

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    'Learn' wordpress? Without HTML/PHP knowledge, you can't do much with it apart from use the admin panel, which hardly requires learning!

    You should first learn HTML and CSS in combo. Don't learn from the output of a WYSIWYG program like Dreamweaver, that will be a waste of your time and will be a detriment to your learning - stay away from WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) - the output code is terrible and should only be used by those unwilling to learn who need a quick solution.
    Learn what element does what, forgetting about how it looks to the browser - that is styled with CSS. Don't even think about using tables for layout. Whilst learning, ask on the HTML forum whether the code you're writing is semantically correct and conformative to standards. You will learn alot in a short space of time, and will give you more knowledge than some who have been 'designing' for years.

    Then, move to PHP or ASP.Net. That will take some time but is definitely worth it, and you should follow the same rules as above - regularly check on the forums whether your code is written properly or not.

    Then learn JavaScript. I'm telling you to learn JS after PHP simply because you're more likely to get a grip on what both mean as soon as you learn them, whereas alot of people who learn PHP AFTER JavaScript take a while to understand what PHP is and how it works.

    Don't be afraid to ask. Many people, myself included, start out by thinking they know what they're doing and fall into bad standards - and spend twice as long later retraining themselves to do it properly. Someone who wants to learn fast and wisely should ASK if they're doing it right - no matter how much you THINK you know about a certain topic, there's probably someone else on the forum who knows more - and will be willing to help, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Schulz View Post
    You can't use WordPress (as more than a typical user) if you don't learn at the very least HTML and CSS.
    Many of my friends are running fairly successful sites knowing only wordpress with very little HTMl or CSS knowledge

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    I'll bet you they haven't tried customizing it then.

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    learn HTML, then CSS, then PHP


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