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    Quote Originally Posted by icantthinkofone View Post
    For the third or fourth time, today, I keep hearing bing being called "re-branded Live". This tells me that bing is really just Live with a new skin and, apparently, with categories.

    This also makes me question, then, some claims of better results in bing compared to Live (or even Google for that matter).
    Rebranding does not always incur just a simple change in name, updates and fixes usually accompany the product relaunch.

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    Its GUI and layout looks better then live, i dig the darker colors.

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    IE6 users get Bing as the default, and they can't change it. (Sorry it's tech crunch, bleh, the other one I had was in Dutch).

    MS says they dunno why this is and are trying to fix it. I think I know why, though. When testing in my IE6, I've set Google as my default home page. For IE6-users only (and below of course) there's a shiny Chromeball on the right side of the page, encouraging IE6 users to upgrade to Chrome. IE7 users don't see this, and IE7 users don't get defaulted to Bing for search.

    Muhahahahaha....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stomme poes View Post
    IE6 users get Bing as the default, and they can't change it. (Sorry it's tech crunch, bleh, the other one I had was in Dutch).

    MS says they dunno why this is and are trying to fix it. I think I know why, though. When testing in my IE6, I've set Google as my default home page. For IE6-users only (and below of course) there's a shiny Chromeball on the right side of the page, encouraging IE6 users to upgrade to Chrome. IE7 users don't see this, and IE7 users don't get defaulted to Bing for search.

    Muhahahahaha....
    LOL, MS and Google at war over IE6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stomme poes View Post
    MS says they dunno why this is and are trying to fix it.
    Already fixed.

    But who ever used the Search Companion Sidebar anyway?? IE6 doesn't have a real search bar like newer browsers.

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    Bing looks good to me and can be an option for Google search.

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    Bing start to drive traffic to my blog and article directory...

    I like it. But bing not index all articles of my site.

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    its nice.. but google is sort of having a monopoly so things would be hard for bing

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    I was really looking forward to Bing, but it seems like it was hyped more than it should have been. To me, it's basically live.com prettier. There's still a lot of things I would like to see bing have - like stock market functionality.
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    Some people have said that BING = But It's Not Google

    But, at my work, it's BING = Bounce It, Now Google

    The video search lets you preview video clips in Bing by just rolling over the thumbnail. Nice feature, but it bypasses our filters, and so far we haven't figured out a way to selectively block porn. So, now if someone goes to Bing, it bounces them to Google! I'm sure Microsoft is happy about that!

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    Just to add...actually, I liked Bing. I tried it out a bit at home, but I don't think it will be a Google killer. Mainly because Google, in general, has become a household word. It's even made it to the dictionary! Just Google It! It's like Kleenex or Xerox...they may not necessarily be the best products, but everyone calls a photocopy a 'Xerox', or when they sneeze say 'Get me a Kleenex', regardless of the actual brand. It will be tough for ANYONE to dethrone Google.

    Just Bing It! I just can't see it becoming a household word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adimauro View Post
    but everyone calls a photocopy a 'Xerox'
    Yet their market share dropped as low as 14% and even in the more corporate "managed printing" area, is about the same as HP's.

    So people might say "Xerox it" yet make the photocopy on an HP copier.

    And people might still say "Google it" then type the search into Bing.

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    Actually only American's refer to a photocopy as a Xerox that I am aware of, outside of the USA I have never heard anyone refer to a photocopy as anything other than a photocopy so I guess it is just a case of American brand identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    Actually only American's refer to a photocopy as a Xerox that I am aware of, outside of the USA I have never heard anyone refer to a photocopy as anything other than a photocopy so I guess it is just a case of American brand identity.
    How many countries have you worked in corporate offices at already?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post
    How many countries have you worked in corporate offices at already?!
    Not many but I talk to people who work in corporate offices all over the world (I am a chatroom and IM addict, what can I say) and as I said, the only people I ever hear call a photocopy a xerox were those located within the USA

    PS: In case you were wondering, that question came up before when I was doing a piece on brand identity for one organisation I did some work for and I went through my contact list so I can be sure for abour 20 - 30 independant nations with ppl in various corporate workplaces, but maybe things have changed recently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    the only people I ever hear call a photocopy a xerox were those located within the USA
    Yes, you are probably right...so it may not have been the best example. But, the point is that, unlike Xerox, 'Google' has become a household word in much of the world (right?). So, to dethrone them will be hard for anyone, not just Bing.

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    Slapping a catchy four-letter word on their new search engine and dumping a truckload of money into marketing isn't going to take market share from google. Frankly I think the only thing google's competitors can do is wait for google to slip up somehow, and then take advantage of that vulnerability.

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    Earlier, in a discussion about Bing, I wondered whether the plain search results of Google will be enough for web surfers in the future. I gave Searchme as an example of a visual search engine that is different and more dazzling than Google. Could Searchme be the future of search?

    Soon after I posted that thought I stumbled into an article at allthingsd.com (the tech site for the Wall Street Journal). This article says that Google has a search engine in the works that is similar to Searchme. So it is doubtful a visual search engine will dethrone Google since Google would just release its own version when it feels it is necessary.

    You can read this article at:
    kara.allthingsd.com/20080311/searchme-a-new-visual-search-engine

    It also mentions that Sequoia Capital, which invests in Searchme, is also a key investor in Google and Yahoo.
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    Actually, it's funny you mention Searchme, because I just checked it out, and on the left side after you do a search, they have 'Ads by Google'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenbrower View Post
    Slapping a catchy four-letter word on their new search engine and dumping a truckload of money into marketing isn't going to take market share from google. Frankly I think the only thing google's competitors can do is wait for google to slip up somehow, and then take advantage of that vulnerability.
    Amen.

    In the meantime, I think it's time for a little perspective. It's interesting that this thread quickly evolved into a M$ vs Google discussion, suggesting that Microsoft is in second place in the race to be King of the Internet. Wouldn't it be prudent to wait until M$ dethrones or assimilates Yahoo before promoting Bing as some sort of Google killer?

    Several months ago some university conducted a poll that ranked Microsoft FOURTH after Google, Yahoo and "Other." I can't remember the precise nature of the poll; I think it focused on public image or customer satisfaction. But it was a vivid reminder that Microsoft has a lonnnnnggggg ways to go in navigating what Bill Gates once described as "the road ahead" before he took a wrong turn and got lost in the suburbs.

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    suggesting that Microsoft is in second place in the race to be King of the Internet.
    Actually I was suggesting Microsoft was at least 3rd place behind Yahoo and Google. At least Yahoo has a highly used web e-mail system (since the new hotmail redesign, everyone pretty much gave up on it due to its hidiously unusable state in a lot of situations) and Yahoo! lets not forget has a few decent startups to its name like FlickR which rake in the customers. While Yahoo may have been sweeping up the loose ends like Geocities, they are certainly nowhere near as clueless as Microsoft have been in aquiring and cultivating web properties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    everyone pretty much gave up on it due to its hidiously unusable state in a lot of situations
    Why make things up?

    Hotmail (Live Mail) gets around 50 million uniques per month. It's the second most used webmail client in the world, behind only Yahoo! Mail. It's slightly down in usage from last year, but only by a few percentage points, no indication of some mass exodus like you're claiming.

    Gmail by comparison gets only 5-10 million uniques a month.





    Quote Originally Posted by alexdawson
    they are certainly nowhere near as clueless as Microsoft have been in aquiring and cultivating web properties.
    Bing is the result of one of those acquisitions (Powerset).

    Microsoft is a software company that derives the bulk of its profits from selling licenses to large corporations. Their acquisitions are in that space because that's their business.

    Microsoft isn't in the web space because it loves us all and wants to do nifty things. They're not even here because they think there's big money to be made bringing apps online or in selling ads.

    They're here solely because Google is competing with their primary business by bringing office apps online. Anything Microsoft can do to take market share from Google they do only because it means Google has less money left to fund R&D on new apps. Search advertising is Google's only significant source of profit, it funds all their other sites. So Microsoft specifically wants to build a search engine, irrelevant of whether they can make a profit doing so, just to reduce Google's advertising income.

    When talking of large corporations with profits bigger than some countries' GDP, always assume protecting their core business is the motive behind any major move, it usually is. Shareholders demand nothing less (and they've been rewarding MSFT well for these recent moves).

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    Just saw this on TV, looks like their ad campaign's begun:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4mH-0zriRM

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttsb View Post
    an d how can we know it is better then google?
    "Better" is a subjective word, you try both and decide which is better for you.

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    it is very tough to decide that which one is better Google or Bing
    because Google have much popularity in peoples and it likes very much.
    i think Bing team need very worked hard to make it SE then Google.


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