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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDawson View Post
    Perhaps if they went in a different direction and made it a visual search engine it may have attracted Google users for being unique
    The vast majority of internet users aren't looking for something unique in a search engine. They open up their computer only an hour or two a day in order to accomplish specific tasks in as little time as possible. Finding a webpage is not what they set out to do, the task is buying plane tickets, choosing what laptop to buy, getting directions to a store you're about to go to, fixing an error message, etc.

    That's why the gimmicky search engines like "visual search" fail -- they do not help people accomplish their task faster.

    Having a faster loading search engine helps you accomplish your task faster. Point to Microsoft, Ask.com's UI totally failed this at launch. Google's quick (Bing's sometimes quicker!) but they present less per screen, meaning more clicks and more overall time.

    Having related searches and refinements a click away instead of retyping a new search helps you accomplish your task faster. Point to Microsoft, their new UI does that.

    Having reviews and prices brought to you instead of making you click through to webpages helps you accomplish your task faster. Point to Microsoft, Google failed at integrating Froogle into their SERPs anywhere near as well.

    Letting you refine a product search by brand, price, category, etc. helps you find information about the specific products you want to learn about, helping you accomplish your task faster. Point to Microsoft, Google does not categorize products and the Froogle integration sucks.

    Planning trips with the lowest price without having you visit Hotel, Orbitz, Travelocity, Priceline, airline sites, etc. all individually helps you accomplish your task faster. So do price calendars which Bing embeds right on the page, letting you see what dates it's cheapest to travel on. Point to Microsoft, nobody else does this at the same scale.

    Bing answers medical questions while only bringing forward information from authority sites. At Google, the user doesn't know which results Google brings up are written by doctors and which by 15 year olds. Point to Microsoft.

    Letting you filter local restaurants by price, rating, parking availability helps you pick the one to go to faster without checking external sites like Yelp, Y! Local, Zagat, etc. Point to Microsoft, Google brings in reviews and directions but not the kind of filters previously only seen on sites like Zagat. Bing does.

    See the idea? For the average Joe, if you know you'll get all these tasks done faster with Bing than Google, then yes, you'll use Bing!

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    I do get what they are trying to accomplish and I do think Microsoft did a good job, I just can't see it making a sizable impact at this current stage, but I would be happy if MSN did proove me wrong and Microsoft finally managed to produce something which did not end up the bridesmaid again, I guess I have been using Google for so long I can't really see myself using anything else unless I really have too, and that probably is the situation for most people, familarity is a powerful tool.

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    Submitting your site is in Webmaster Center, which in the button on the far right "Extra".
    Or via this link: http://www.bing.com/webmaster/
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    Bing looks far better than live , but I do not think it can overthrow google from it's position.

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    Microsoft's New Search Engine: Bing

    is it fast then the google

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    bing will provide tough competition to others search engines

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    Bing.com use image on its background....very attractive. Now bloggers get some traffic from bing also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoxp View Post
    I do not think microsoft can match a google search with your new bing
    For search engines, google is the leader, however, microsoft is picking up. Very soon bing will be near to google.

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    Sounds like porn fans are going to like Bing...

    Bing vs Fair Use

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    Quote Originally Posted by geosite View Post
    Sounds like porn fans are going to like Bing...

    Bing vs Fair Use
    The video search result thumbnails only play the first 8? seconds of the video, not the whole thing. Either they changed the video search one day after launch, or the premise of the article is wrong. The update at the end of the article seems to admit this.

    And, we all know the internet is for porn (link to full length video embedded in Google's video search, without permission from the creator), so kudos to Microsoft for serving a billion porn searching men better. The porn industry's revenue is larger than Microsoft, Google, Yahoo!, Amazon, and eBay combined, after all.

    This aint nothin' new. Google's been sued repeatedly, since search engines lift entire websites, and all their images, and reproduce them on their servers (image search and cached pages).

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    "Bing" makes me think of Bing Crosby, who made a movie in 1959 called "High Hopes". Here's Frank Sinatra singing the title song, which may convey the victorious underdog message MS would like to associate with the product.

    I searched for a couple of organizations whose sites I maintain. Results were...interesting. Compared to Google, Bing seems to choose unique domain references over timely ones. Announcements from several years ago on sites we rarely use came ahead of more recent ones on sites we often use. But I found a wiki link I'd never seen before.

    The main thing is, I don't trust MS not to try to monkeywrench my search in favor of its products, subsidiaries, and paying "partners". Whereas I trust Google to make the paid placements and ads distinguishable from non-paid search results, and to display results impartially according to its algorithm.

    Last month, a friend of mine who had a new laptop and no home ISP wanted me to adjust and upload some photos for him. He brought his Dell over, and I burned a CD of his .jpgs. But when I tried to open them on my Mac, it looked like there were no files on the CD. I thought maybe the CD was bad, so I tried another, with the same results. Finally, I uploaded his photos to my online storage, so I could get them on to my computer.

    Afterwards, I researched this problem online, and discovered that Vista's CD burner defaults to a new, improved format that won't allow files to be read on any OS but Vista or XP. I found instructions for how to change the default, but it looked to me like MS had devised a way to "break" cross-platform file types, eg, .jpgs. This is the kind of thing that makes me leery of all MS products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post
    This aint nothin' new.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapf Dingbat View Post
    ...Afterwards, I researched this problem online, and discovered that Vista's CD burner defaults to a new, improved format that won't allow files to be read on any OS but Vista or XP....
    You are referring to Live File System, right? How is using a new technology breaking cross-platform ability? Should all systems not utilize new technology until all the old systems pick up on it? In fact this technology isn't even that new, CD Packet Writing has been around for some time now.

    The main thing is, I don't trust MS not to try to monkeywrench my search in favor of its products, subsidiaries, and paying "partners". Whereas I trust Google to make the paid placements and ads distinguishable from non-paid search results, and to display results impartially according to its algorithm.
    So has Microsoft done that with its search?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geosite View Post
    When M$ doesn't get something right, it just gives it a new name - Windows/Vista, MSN/Live.com/Bing...
    err, Vista is a version of Windows, not a renaming. In fact it's called Windows Vista

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    i think Bing is good when compared to google....
    But u need to know google is very famous especially in India and Brazil...google may find stiff competition coz...Bing can reach the world as soon as possible..but people in india and brazil prefare the word google rather than bing.

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    That's no wonder that Microsoft can do this. Already its a stronger base in the world of techniques. If its providing the search engine which will be beneficial to world rather than that of Google, it will be really creating a magical endeavor.
    Last edited by aartig; Jun 4, 2009 at 22:23.

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    When it comes to search engines Google still rains supreme. Its good though, that other companies are still in there to prevent the Google Monopoly.

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    I am already getting traffic from bing. I didn't know what it was until I checked it out and was shocked to learn that it was MS's new SE. I like the interface but what about its algy?

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    what is the use of tons of search engine , a good one is enough . big G is there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lite Scripts View Post
    what is the use of tons of search engine , a good one is enough . big G is there
    Whats the use of competition? Affordability.

    Think about it if Google or Walmart had a complete monopoly in their industries would they be so nice to us?
    Have a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post
    Cash Back is offered on a per-store basis not per product. If you're doing a normal web search, any ads leading to a store that offers Cash Back will have a Cash Back icon under the ad (like eBay ads).

    If you click the shopping tab and browse/search for products, then any price lists will show the cash back percentage.

    They have a lot of sites signed up for it
    When you go to bing .com/shop and search for on item you will see a "cashback only" icon in the upper left hand corner and that will allow you to limit your search only to products with cashback, and you can find almost every kind of product imaginable.

    I search bing daily to provide users with especially great cashback deals on Twitter @bingcashback. A couple weeks ago there was 35% cashback on all purchases from HP. Right now you can get 8.2% cashback on all purchases through TigerDirect. All you have to do is go to bing and search "tigerdirect" and click on the cashback symbol in the search results.

    I hope you like,
    Nate

    A member of the bing outreach team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logic_earth View Post
    Submitting your site is in Webmaster Center, which in the button on the far right "Extra".
    Or via this link: http://www.bing.com/webmaster/
    Do I have to create a new login or it will accept existing microsoft passport login?

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    For the third or fourth time, today, I keep hearing bing being called "re-branded Live". This tells me that bing is really just Live with a new skin and, apparently, with categories.

    This also makes me question, then, some claims of better results in bing compared to Live (or even Google for that matter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hexforex.com View Post
    Do I have to create a new login or it will accept existing microsoft passport login?
    Can use your existing passport account. As with all of Microsoft's sites and services utilize the same account.
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    It's not *just* rebranded Live, they've done a lot of work on the results, and incorporated the technology they acquired from Powerset.

    Try it for yourself, no need to rely on others' opinions.


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