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    Unhappy Transfering to a new host

    Hey guys, I'm new to this so please bare with me.

    I'm planning to get a domain and hosting for the first time.

    but what would happen if i decide to change hosting?
    will i lose all my data?

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    You would upload your website and any other data to the new host before updating the domain to point there.

    You would always have a copy of the website on your computer (since that's where you upload it from) and should regularly download backups of any databases you create.

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    It's very important to backup your website, especially the database

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    You should also take into consideration the fact that if your site is ranked in Google, moving it to another host might be bad for it's ranking, and you should do it in a special manner.
    It's called 301 redirection...
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    Quote Originally Posted by iScrawl View Post
    You should also take into consideration the fact that if your site is ranked in Google, moving it to another host might be bad for it's ranking, and you should do it in a special manner.
    It's called 301 redirection...
    Just changing host wouldn't change your URLs, there'd be nothing to redirect.

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    If you change the host and both have cPanel, new host can get your entire website migrated. if you do not have cPanel hosting then you have to backup any database saparatelly and webpages saparatelly. These can be restored but you have to manually re-create all other settings like email IDs and so on.

    Good luck.

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    If you become careless you will loose data, always keep backup.
    It is your responsibility to transfer all sites and data to your new host, you can hire professionals for high data transfers too.

    good luck
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    Yes backup, backup & backup. Most hosts also have backup software to help you automate it as well.
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    Most hosts will transfer your data to their servers for you upon request provided you give them access to the same on your existing host's server. Some will even do it for free. Aside from that the first two responses are dead on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post
    Just changing host wouldn't change your URLs, there'd be nothing to redirect.
    so this wont affect the google ranking then?
    because I'm about to register a domain soon for the first name, and start off with any free hosting that's available.
    Then later on down the track I'd transfer to paid hosting once the site gets fair amount of bandwidth.

    Does this sound like a good idea or should I just wait til i purchase hosting?

    I'm not very familiar with backing db's and such, I'm gonna be running "Social Engine" and i don't know where the db is for users and photo's etc.

    Another question
    Does cPanel have phpmyadmin? because I've been using that with XAMPP and i know a little bit of that

    Thanks for your responses.

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    Most paid hosts do provide phpMyAdmin. I wouldn't know about the free ones.

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    If you decided to change your web hosting service provider you will need:
    1 Find another one
    2 Update your nameservers.
    3 Move
    4 Delete data on the old provider (ONLY after 72 hours after changing DNs)

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    Free hosts may not have the tools needed to backup data/databases. Hosting is too cheap not to get a paid account where you can control such variables. Messing around with a free host for a site you care about and want to grow is just not worth it imo. Plus you will be subjected to advertising on all your pages from the FREE host and who knows what other restrictions. Honestly if you can't afford $8 bucks or less per month for a reliable web host you should not be doing this.

    Quote Originally Posted by eradinn View Post
    so this wont affect the google ranking then?
    because I'm about to register a domain soon for the first name, and start off with any free hosting that's available.
    Then later on down the track I'd transfer to paid hosting once the site gets fair amount of bandwidth.

    Does this sound like a good idea or should I just wait til i purchase hosting?

    I'm not very familiar with backing db's and such, I'm gonna be running "Social Engine" and i don't know where the db is for users and photo's etc.

    Another question
    Does cPanel have phpmyadmin? because I've been using that with XAMPP and i know a little bit of that

    Thanks for your responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored View Post
    Honestly if you can't afford $8 bucks or less per month for a reliable web host you should not be doing this.
    14 years ago I started with free hosts, and saved and saved what I could from advertising to pay Internic $70 for a domain (2 year registration minimum back then, $35 a year, and only one registrar!).

    I hosted that domain on a free host for a while longer before I saved another $60 to prepay a year of $5/mo hosting.

    14 years later I live well off my websites, and host them on 4 servers of my own.

    Everyone should have the opportunity to create a website, even if they can't afford hosting yet.

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    Honestly if you can't afford $8 bucks or less per month for a reliable web host you should not be doing this.
    There was a time when $8 was almost 1/20th of my father's monthly wage, and, as you can imagine, there wasn't much left of it at the end of the month as it was. We don't know the OP's background.

    Getting that domain is really smart play though.

    Does cPanel have phpmyadmin?
    The cPanel control panel does come with phpmyadmin, although the provider may choose not to enable it. So, get a confirmation first to be extra safe.
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    First thing backup your website and database from Cpanel your Hosting

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    You should answer this. Why you will use your Data. Almost every Host offer the service to Backup your Site and you can easily change the Hosting or Server if you know what you are doing.

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    Hey eradinn,

    As you're a newbie and you wish to get a domain and web hsoting for the first time, I'd say that currently many good domain registrars and web hosts in the market such as LimeDomains, Yahoo!, HostGator etc.

    As far as the question of changing your host is concerned, you must have a backup of your data on your PC as well as the server of your first registrar. I am suggesting here some steps that you can follow to transfer your domain from one web host to another.

    Step 1. Find a good web host and sign up for an account.

    Step 2: Make a back-up of your site at the new web host.

    Step 3: Change DNS to point to your new web host.

    Step 4: Wait for the DNS change to propagate through the net.

    Step 5: Once you are sure people or Googlebots are fetching from the new webhost/IP address, you’re done. You can shut down the old site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akravi View Post
    You should answer this. Why you will use your Data. Almost every Host offer the service to Backup your Site and you can easily change the Hosting or Server if you know what you are doing.
    You are correct and I believe you understand that is not recommended to keep all eggs in th one basket as well as UP old threads
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