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    IE8... Now that's a bad idea

    I just have to vent. It's great when Microsoft releases unstable products which cause system crashes for vital and integrated software. I just installed IE8... Good news... I don't have IE7 or 8 anymore... (I don't like them anyway!) Bad news... harder to test websites... Though for now testing in IE 5.5 + 6 is fine (until after the holiday weekend).

    Anyone else getting huge errors when installing IE8? After the installation and restart everything is still branded with IE7 (including the about window which brings up a few errors with it)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffvdovjak View Post
    I just have to vent. It's great when Microsoft releases unstable products which cause system crashes for vital and integrated software. I just installed IE8... Good news... I don't have IE7 or 8 anymore... (I don't like them anyway!) Bad news... harder to test websites... Though for now testing in IE 5.5 + 6 is fine (until after the holiday weekend).

    Anyone else getting huge errors when installing IE8? After the installation and restart everything is still branded with IE7 (including the about window which brings up a few errors with it)....
    I have no issues whatsoever with IE8, though I also don't have IE7, IE6, IE 5.5 any longer, but I do still have IE8.

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

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    I tried to upgrade 7 to 8.

    5.5 and 6 run in a virtual machine (so they're not really installed on this operating system)
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    I didn't get into any problem so far. Plus for testing purposes there is a software that lets you install legacy versions of IE.

    Good thing about having IE8 is at least there would be less problems with IE not following standards. Hopefully IE 6 would vanish soon.

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    I have had no problems with IE8. Windows Update updated it automatically for me yesterday.

    Anyone who is having problems with it needs to look at what is wrong with their computer rather than blaming IE8.
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    Installed it the day it was released, everything went perfect.
    Then again I never have issues with my system.
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    IE is the worst browser to code for but it teaches
    how to code rethinking how a browser/compiler
    outside of the standards circle works.

    Here is a handy utility to refrain from having to install IE:

    Internet Explorer Collection
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    Quote Originally Posted by internetSurfer View Post
    IE is the worst browser to code for
    No it isn't - IE8 is the most standard compliant browser there is when it comes to the CSS 2.1 standard. It is only the old superseded versions of IE that were a problem to code for because of not following standards.
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    I haven't installed it yet. But thinking for upgrade.

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    I had no trouble with getting IE8. HOwever I am disappointed that it took so long to upgrade it. (By that I mean not MS taking a long time, I mean the long installation process. They searched my computer for any other IE for around 5-8 minutes)

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    Maybe it's easy to upgrade, but for short time you will see exploits over the internet. Best to use is firefox, safari or opera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buldozerce View Post
    Maybe it's easy to upgrade, but for short time you will see exploits over the internet. Best to use is firefox, safari or opera.
    But there are already exploits all over the Internet for those three you listed too...
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    IE8 is junk as well as it's predecessors.

    They should have brought Opera and built upon that browser.

    NoScript stops many exploits for Firefox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by internetSurfer View Post
    IE8 is junk as well as it's predecessors.
    Only because it can't process XHTML. It is actually ahead of all the other browsers with its CSS 2.1 support. Anyway since IE9 will be built on a new rendering engine things will be totally different when that comes out - it will either be built on webkit and therefore be in direct competition with Safari and GoogleChrome or it will be built on Gazelle which means it will not require an operating system as the browser will then be the operating system.
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    That is good news. However they will be a little late at that point IMO. By the time IE9 comes out I think their percentage of users will drop even further and I think that Firefox will at that time surpass IE6+7.

    Also which browser(s) use Gazelle? I have never heard of that before

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    Gazelle was a Microsoft research project.
    http://research.microsoft.com/apps/p....aspx?id=79655
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    Quote Originally Posted by a2K View Post
    I think that Firefox will at that time surpass IE6+7.
    That should happen next month (mostly as a result of people upgrading to IE8).
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    I had enough problems installing IE7, ive given up with IE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by felgall View Post
    it will either be built on webkit and therefore be in direct competition with Safari and GoogleChrome or it will be built on Gazelle which means it will not require an operating system as the browser will then be the operating system.
    It's just as likely IE9 will be neither of those things. Rumors, even when they come from one of Microsoft's 60000 employees, are still rumors. Gazelle was nothing but a research paper out of Microsoft Research -- very little of what MSR does becomes part of a real product. MSR is a totally separate division from the product groups.

    Knowing Microsoft, if they do scrap Trident, they'll write their own replacement, and knowing Ballmer, IE won't replace the OS. It'll just be Trident 2.0, a browser rendering engine, started from scratch within the IE team. The OS would keep using Trident for legacy support, and the browser becomes a standalone app. If regulators are big on not bundling it with the OS, they'd drop it in the Windows Live Essentials package like all the other standalone apps for Windows 7 (mail, photo gallery, blogging, etc).

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    Hey buddy you are have totally negative thoughts about IE. The new version IE 8 is the best and the installation is so easy, error less. Reinstall the program with new Windows, may this work.

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    Hey buddy you are have totally negative thoughts about IE. The new version IE 8 is the best and the installation is so easy, error less. Reinstall the program with new Windows, may this work.
    Well of course IE8 is the best. Each one is an improvement on the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by invision2 View Post
    If Windows Update was going to reduce IE6's installed base, then they'd already be on IE7. A large portion of the IE6 users are on Windows 2000 or earlier, usually managed work PCs, which don't support the new browsers, or at companies where the IT dept has purposely kept everyone on IE6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post
    If Windows Update was going to reduce IE6's installed base, then they'd already be on IE7.
    Not yet since Microsoft has not activated the automatic Windows Update option for IE6 or 7 yet. So far the only windows update that has been automatically applied recently is IE8RC1 to IE8. Microsoft has promised that they will bo the same for IE6 and 7.

    I can't see Microsoft returning to Trident 2.0 as a rendering engine after they have put so much work into the several versions of Trident that have followed it.
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    In the Sitepoint podcast with Chris Wilson, didn't he say that they were not going to force users to upgrade??

    @Stephen
    Yea I see your point. I feel the same way

    Also, why would an IT department keep users on IE6?


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