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    hardest thing to do in php?

    From your experience
    what has been hardest thing to do as a php programmer?
    (generating ideas for.....may be Social network like "whats new" section.......or may be "handling replicated servers operation" ....or providing very generic customization features to users...


    what do you think is the hardest..?
    and
    what has been hardest in your experience..?

    (ok,i agree in depends on many things...so hardest may be ..with took lots of time...needed lots of brain stroming...)

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    Switch between projects and carry on where I was before ... this was always hard, but with twitter it is well nigh impossible now.

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    Figuring out someone else's homemade MVC.

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    well thanks...i totally agree with it ...have been in such scenarios...

    any way does any body have much technical tedious experience...
    my programmers frens says...

    curd operation in Hierarchical datas are very tedious to program...
    and may be some pdf operations...


    so ...any others...
    thanks

    or some thing that u think will take more than 10,000$

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    No particular problem with PHP language itself but more with people-related issues in big projects
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    I think writing your first true "multi-page navigation widget" is usually a big hurdle, especially when you've never seen how anybody else has achieved it. By "multi-page navigation widget", I'm referring to the page numbers at the bottom of blogs and forum threads which allow the user to jump between pages. The tricky part in my opinion, is figuring out the maths required to do this properly... and by properly, I mean it should have expected behaviour such as showing the last 4 pages and 4 next pages, and having links to the next/previous set of pages, and links to the first and last page. There's more to it than you think.

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    @Wardrop the term usually used is 'paging' or 'pagination'.

    I agree, I find the whole thing hateful. I hate reading threads about it (and now largely ignore them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cups View Post
    @Wardrop the term usually used is 'paging' or 'pagination'.

    I agree, I find the whole thing hateful. I hate reading threads about it (and now largely ignore them).
    Isn't that the truth? There have been so many threads about pagination, and so many replies of "search for one of the billions of existing threads about it" that I don't bother looking at them anymore.

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    The hardest thing I've ever tried in php was making sense of and recreating this http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/show...5&postcount=92

    Only thing in php I've thrown my hands in the air and said 'I can't do this'
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    well normal pagination cannot be considered as hardest thing...so i think it is misunderstood there....
    may be creating complex breadcrums sometimes takes effort...

    any way thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by -T- View Post
    The hardest thing I've ever tried in php was making sense of and recreating this http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/show...5&postcount=92

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    by the way what does it do...(task)?

    thanks

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    Not necessarily php, more a web dev prob...

    Having a client that wants a million things on 1 page but wants it 'user friendly' and 'Web 2.0' and 'easy to navigate'

    arrrrggghhhhh....

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    Artificial intelligence was fairly easy, yet I had a hard time endowing my website with a capacity for love.
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    Not that its difficult, but rather tedious, I despise setting up granular permissions for large applications because there are potentially so many.

    I've been through my rounds and really don't have much trouble accomplishing things any more, but I remember when I was learning the most, pagination, breadcrumbs using nested set model, ACL's, and plugin systems were a pain. Later on, learning (and understanding) different design patterns proved to be difficult to remember as well. Props to CodeIgniter for helping me along the way as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank1 View Post
    well thanks...i totally agree with it ...have been in such scenarios...

    any way does any body have much technical tedious experience...
    my programmers frens says...

    curd operation in Hierarchical datas are very tedious to program...
    and may be some pdf operations...


    so ...any others...
    thanks

    or some thing that u think will take more than 10,000$
    Well, there's a big difference between tedious and hard.

    I've created pdfs that get used to directly print business cards and envelopes. That was tedious. Print it out. Hold it up to the light in front of the master. Adjust values by .2mm. Print. Repeat. But it was really simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cups View Post
    @Wardrop the term usually used is 'paging' or 'pagination'.
    I'm going to stick to my terminiology if you don't mind :P. I knew there must have been a standard term or phrase for such a thing, seeing as though it's so common.

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    @Wardrop: agree, pagination took me a lot of time to understand.

    The next hardest thing is working with dictator developer.

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    Fixing a web site which was coded by a novice which is one massive block of code without a hit of a comment and a layout to the script which can only be described as insane
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    I have a tough time finding a good balance between efficiency and ease of reuse. I have a tendancy to focus on efficiency.

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    any other more technical things...............

    making custom fields for each category in cms......

    converting codes to other platform...
    ?

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    Putting the toilet seat down. No matter how many scripts I write, it never works.

    For me it's an ongoing process of learning to write better, leaner and nicer code. It's hard with larger projects that I want to finish. There is always room for improvement, it never ends.

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    The main problem used to face is database structure and its optimization.

    Another thing is when I tried to decode ioncube..............!

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    yes.....optimum database design is always hard to get
    another point....

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    Creating a largescale architecture. In java you are forced in a objectoriented direction, but with PHP you can easily make bad code.


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