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    Copyright, logos, art etc.

    I am interested to know about copyright law regarding certain graphics. For example in logo creation, if someone was making a fashion logo and they used a photo of a dress to trace the outline of their logo, or if someone designed a logo for a car seller company, and used a specific car model for the design. If someone was able to prove that a logo was based on a certain photograph or product/model, or even the face of a person, could they sue the logo designer?

    Also is it considered cheating or unethical to use a photo that someone else took for tracing a logo over? I am talking about general photos found on google that are originally not meant for artistic purposes.

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    Using someone’s photo with out permission would probably be considered cheating or unethical.

    The rest of the stuff gets in a gray area the average person probably won’t get sued buy Lamborghini for using a car in a logo. But if Lamborghini found it destructive to their image they might come after you like if you had it on a much viewed porn site or something like that.

    Here in the States there are so many copyright laws volumes of them if you piss someone off or they think it would be profitable they can get a lawyer to dig up copyright laws on gray stuff.

    In India and China they have almost none.
    Last edited by zipperz; Dec 13, 2008 at 17:29. Reason: spelling

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    Unless the site that is copying off of you is found by your people or by some helpful members then nothing you can do really. Especially if its a small site

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    Copyright laws in general are sketchy.

    You're probably not going to get sued by anyone if you make an average income. It takes time and effort, and big companies who could possibly find out about it wouldn't care about you unless you were competing against them or had a lot of money.

    If you are scared just alter the outline so they can't prove anything or simply ask for permission (which is what most will probably tell you).

    Hope that helps cyjetsu, cheers.

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    SitePoint Guru cyjetsu's Avatar
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    Yes it does help thanks. I am studying graphics design and making a few logos to sell. It does seem that I should take the photos myself for this purpose, since I do take myself seriously as an artist and I am very anti cheating and stealing content etc.

    Editing is also a good idea. I am pretty sure that I can change the outline enough so that it is unrecognisable from the original photo.

    A good rule to go by is that if something is recognisable as a copy, then it should be considred stolen. This applies to article writing, graphics design, music etc.

    Thanks for the help.

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    In my mind I do think you have an "artistic licence" to create something originality new from the original, think of Andy Warhol for instance.

    But if there can be any connection to the original, do consider:
    Quote Originally Posted by zipperz
    ... But if Lamborghini found it destructive to their image they might come after you like if you had it on a much viewed porn site or something like that. ...
    In case there are countries that does not allow such creativity please educate me.
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    bals28mkj who are you on devshed?
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    Off Topic:

    If you can't tell from the name, you don't know me.

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    How do you know about gameyin then? I don't know you please tell me
    Lets move to pm
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    Quote Originally Posted by erik.j View Post
    In case there are countries that does not allow such creativity please educate me.

    In the US I do remember hearing of Playboy having a successful lawsuits against a porn site also Tom Cruse had a successful one. those are just a couple of the famous ones.

    In the US you can get sued for about anything But you have to have a lot of $ or make someone mad enough to go after you.

    In the US if you have money you hire a “copyright lawyer” to go over your logos.

    Out of control legal system.

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    Tom Cruse had a successful one.
    Lol??????

    url plz

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    SitePoint Addict zipperz's Avatar
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    Well I tried to get a link, I googled “tom cruise internet lawsuit” and there is just to much stuff.. This guy must have a full time lawyer. lol

    The case I was thinking of is old like 98 I think it was a cyber squatter bought a name similar to tomcruse,com and filled it with gay porn. lol


    Just a couple from a skim
    http://www.scientomogy.com/scientology_lawsuit.php
    off topic but funny
    http://www.pugbus.net/artman/publish...uiseplug.shtml

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    If someone was able to prove that a logo was based on a certain photograph or product/model, or even the face of a person they can definitely sue. Its part of derivative work of copyright.

    Also copyright laws are not sketchy at all actually. Its quite black and white in this case. Make sure it cant be proven in any way that it is based on another work so much.

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    You can sue for anything, but it's not always worth your time and effort, even if you win.

    Also copyright laws are not sketchy at all actually.
    Perhaps this article on fair use will change your mind.

    Cheers.


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