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Hiya!,
I currently planning to make my own template system, but am intrigued to know what the different techniques are in order to link the templates with the PHP code.
I know of one method, "Regular Expressions".
Also, what method does the following class use?
http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/file/14674.html
It's been said a few hundred times, PHP is a template language. Creating a template language on top of a template language is redundant.
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That's a matter of opinion. I find <?php foreach ($users as $user) { ?><a href="/<?php echo htmlspecialchars($user) ?>"><?php echo htmlspecialchars($user) ?></a><?php endforeach; ?> exceptionally hard on the eyes and a real pain to write. After I've mocked up a design in Photoshop and I want to write its corresponding HTML code, I don't want to waddle in such ugly code spaghetti. You also can't cleanly add template-specific functions to be used in only templates due to PHP's handling of scope.
You might want to look into how Smarty does it.
If it's a template language, how do you separate the Processing (PHP) from the Mark-Up (HTML) code?Originally Posted by imaginethis
It's not an opinion, its a fact.
Not so hard on the eyes. This is hardly much more than what you'd have in smarty. It's not hard to write and there's no ugly spaghetti code to "waddle" through.PHP Code:<? foreach($users as $user): ?>
<a href="/<?= htmlspecialchars($user) ?>">
<?= htmlspecialchars($user)?>
</a>
<? endforeach; ?>
Can't argue with that. But I like the thought of being able re-use my code.
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PHP Code:{foreach from=$myArray item=foo}
<li>{$foo}</li>
{/foreach}
looks the same to me. Any there's no smarty overhead =]PHP Code:<?php foreach($myArray as $foo) ?>
<li><?= $foo ?></li>
<?php endforeach; ?>
AND you dont have to learn another "language"
MVC
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Or create one
But seriously, if your going to make a better template language to improve upon PHP, write it in C
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if you don't feel like ever using a template system again read this. most importantly the posts by voostind
Honestly I am not sure why people use templates...
sample.php
in templates all you would be editing is the stuff in mainContent anyhowPHP Code:<html>
//header stuff
<body>
<?php
include('nav.php');
include('sidebar.php');
?>
<div class="mainContent">
.......
</div>
<?php include('footer'); ?>
</body>
</html>
Yes, but you need a way to link the Processing (PHP) to the Mark-Up (HTML) code.
Can you expand more? look up at my sample code. I used php to include another file, the browser looks at the code, sees I am calling a new file (nav.php), writes/processes the file (meshes nav.php into my original code) and spits out the page. If you then look at the source, you won't see a php include call but you would instead see the code in nav.php
I think your missing the point. If PHP is the template language you don't need to separate HTML from PHP. You need only seperate Business Logic from View.
Separating PHP from HTML with a template language is nothing more than putting a huge semaphore in the your code's execution saying WAIT FOR IT! WAIT FOR IT! WAIT FOR IT! KEEP WAITING! KEEP WAITING! THERE YOU GO. The shortest distance between any two points is a straight line. No matter how many triangles, circles, squares or squiggly lines you draw, you want get from point A to point B any faster than a straight line.
+1 for geometry theorems being put to use >.>
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er... that is a template >.>...Honestly I am not sure why people use templates...
sample.php
in templates all you would be editing is the stuff in mainContent anyhowPHP Code:<html>
//header stuff
<body>
<?php
include('nav.php');
include('sidebar.php');
?>
<div class="mainContent">
.......
</div>
<?php include('footer'); ?>
</body>
</html>
Creativity knows no other restraint than the
confines of a small mind. - Me
Geekly Humor
Oh baby! Check out the design patterns on that framework!
I wasn't saying it was >.> I was just saying I am not sure why people still use templates since you can make something like one in php, where you include files except where you put content... isn't that what a template does basically? Say a, b, and c is a fixed region, but D is where you have the ability to write content...
In incredibly simple terms yes. I think I understand what you were attempting to say. "Honestly I am not sure why people use template languages"...
Creativity knows no other restraint than the
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There must be some advantages of using a Template Engine, as everybody uses them.
I recently looked at some jobs websites for PHP Developer roles (Just curious to see what some requirements are), and many of the positions require the knowledge of Zend and Smarty.
Zend is not a template language. I would say it is a library (framework) that extends PHP. All Zend and Smarty does is make your life easier as a dev. Companies that require Zend/Smarty/Cake are saying is "We want somebody that uses his/her resources." Example: I just looked at the smarty site, it has a guestbook app built in... I could take a bit of time to make my own guestbook, OR use smarty's 'template':
(note that is not real code, just a guess)... and that took me 30 seconds to make a guestbookPHP Code:include('smarty.class.guestbook.php');
$myGB = new SmartyGuestbook();
...
echo $myGB;
Smarty pareses its template files and store its compiled generated PHP code while giving you the possibility to generated cached HTML pages. There many websites that use smarty as well as many applications, like X-Cart -- a complete pain in the backside -- that currently use smarty. Those websites and applications still need maintenance, so knowledge of Smarty is beneficial... Several PHP frameworks have built in caching capabilities -- Zend Framework and CakePHP do -- so I don't see what benefit using any additional template language other than php would provide.
Zend is company, not a framework. Zend Framework is a PHP framework.
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confines of a small mind. - Me
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How would you do that then?
I'm now confused now, as so many people use template engines, and to me it seems a good idea (i.e. easier to edit pages). But after reading the information above, and viewing this thread, I don't want to waste my time developing something that doesn't actually need to be done.
Many people state that PHP is already a template system, if this is true, how would you link the templates with the PHP?
That thread shows exactly how. You can still keep your template in a separate file, just keep it as a php file.
template.tpl.php (or whatever you want to call it):
another file:PHP Code:<html>
<head>
<title><?= $title ?></title>
</head>
<body>
</body>
</html>
Personally I wouldn't use short tags though, and I normally don't bother with separate include files for templates - all my business logic is in the objects, and I keep limited display logic and html output in the same file, that makes use of these objects.PHP Code://business logic
if ($onething) {
$title = "another thing";
} else {
$title = "something else";
}//if
include "template.php"
So is PHP classed as a template system because you can include files? e.g. include('some_file.php');
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