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    Tableless design guide???

    I have recently heard about the tableless standard in web designing, so I decided to give it a try (by learning how to use divs with css) but since I am so used to playing with tables, now I am having a hard time. I have tried to search for ebooks (free and paid) which will teach me the basic (and advanced) stuffs but never found one.
    Do you guys have any recommendation? Please share with me

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    Hi

    have you checked out the books section of this site? This one has some good reviews.. "Build Your Own Web Site The Right Way Using HTML & CSS" and seems to address what you want to know.

    For learning css the w3schools css tutorial is quite good. (sorry cant post a link to it as i dont have enough posts under my belt, but it can be found by googling for w3schools css tutorial)

    I hope these help.

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    I'll second Ian Lloyd's book.

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    Look into how some elements display inline and
    others block - then how CSS float/clear techniques
    are used to change it.

    I liked "Bulletproof Web Design" by Dan Cederholm, too!
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    Thanks for your recommendations, will try these books, anyone else has other nice tips?

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    CSS Mastery by Andy Budd is well worth a read.

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    I have taken a look at the books mentioned, actually I don't need general CSS guides. Is there one specially made to teach people how to use DIVs and CSS? not just another CSS guide

    Thank you.

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    Ian's book does exactly that. If you're looking for a cookbook for CSS, then I suggest you check out the "CSS Cookbook" by Christopher Schmitt or "The CSS Anthology, 2nd Edition" by Rachel Andrew and Dan Shafer.

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    Hey Shadow -
    What is it about the division
    Code:
    <div>
    that's confusing you?


    Or, what info. are you
    not sure about that you need
    to have in order to continue?

    LJK
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    Quote Originally Posted by LJK View Post
    Hey Shadow -
    What is it about the division
    Code:
    <div>
    that's confusing you?


    Or, what info. are you
    not sure about that you need
    to have in order to continue?

    LJK
    I have always built website with tables, and because people now seem to love the so-called tableless designs, therefore I have to change the way I code. I know css pretty well, so I don't need a CSS guide that teaches everything about CSS, I want a guide that teaches how to build a web page using div (instead of table) with CSS

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    The best way to learn is viewing other sites out there. You can grab the CSS code and the html code. Download them into a directory and play with them. Every site has different styles to learn from. By using trial and error (and a lot of time spent), you can master different techniques.
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    I have to say you can't go wrong with any of the sitepoint books on this topic. When I started web design I learned to build sites in tables. It got to a point when I decided I had to learn CSS layouts and picked up "Build Your Own Web Site The Right Way Using HTML & CSS" and haven't looked back.

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    Go to a free css template site and download a few, you can then see the code and edit them to see how divs work.

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    I share you with my tools. Even you understood the mechanism, it's also time consuming job to design different layouts. There will be another serials of tools based on parellel design in the unit of &#37;, px, or em.

    Just use them before I launch a series of tutorials on div layouts.

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    Templates often use tables. Bad practice for him to see a table design.


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