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    Pragmatic Programmer halfasleeps's Avatar
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    what should I learn to make myself worth more?

    I want to make myself worth more, but I dont want to completely changed fields I want to learn something that will compliment what I already know and make me more valueable.

    I specialize in flash and actionscript. I am currently also learning flex. I have a couple years experience in PHP. I also know some Mysql, javascript, xml, css, html, regex, but not an expert in any. I also have design experience in programs like photoshop, illustrator, after effects. I guess you can say I really try to diversify. What i really enjoy most is programming with actionscript but that alone is usually not enough, most job listings for actionscripters also require experience in other things like c++, or other technologies. I have a current job that I enjoy with a boss I think is a good guy. However i feel very under payed, but I'm not sure if thats just because of the area I live in and I work for a small company. So what can I do to make myself more valuable? Is there something in my repertoire I can hone in on or is there another technology that would enhance my skillset?

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    I can offer a few tips -
    Try getting more freelance projects on your own (Which I believe you are doing)
    Try focusing on a common niche when hunting for freelance projects
    Develop your expertise on a particular area
    Try launching your own open source component or plugin to make yourself popular

    Huh...they may not all be direct answers to your question but I hope it may give some leads

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    also, why not speak to boss about how you feel with regards to your wage. You say he's a good guy, if he is, he sould be understanding and take your view onboard.

    I'm not actually suggesting you outright ask for a wage increase or your leaving etc. but simply have an honest chat? Explain your willing to learn new stuff to help him but you need the incentive / reward for it.

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    What about Silverlight? It seems like it is the next logical step and you will get experience with .net as well.
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    Pragmatic Programmer halfasleeps's Avatar
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    Thanks for the comments guys...Some good ideas... I was kinda looking for something that would make me a better programmer in general.
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    Experience will do that for you. It's very hard to become a better programmer just by learning something. You become better once you apply what you've learned.
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    Work any of the following

    Multi threaded system
    Distributed System

    Pick up one in a open source project and start contributing. These types of systems require good design / programming knowledge as there can be a lot of complexity. I'd suggest learning Java or C#
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfasleeps View Post
    What i really enjoy most is programming with actionscript but that alone is usually not enough, most job listings for actionscripters also require experience in other things like c++,
    Actionscript work can be well paid in the right environment (I'm aware of AS people that get around 50k in London). I can't say I've ever seen a requirement for both AS and C++ in a job, though without doubt you need to know how to hook up to any backend tech whether php, cf, asp etc and a lot of the time end up doing the backend as well. Within AS work there are plenty niches that are valuable e.g FMS/papervision/flex+sap/game design/ but only if there is demand for them in your work environment.

    Quote Originally Posted by halfasleeps View Post
    However i feel very under payed, but I'm not sure if thats just because of the area I live in and I work for a small company. So what can I do to make myself more valuable? Is there something in my repertoire I can hone in on or is there another technology that would enhance my skillset?
    Wage is a reflection of the market economy your company operates in. We recently approached and offered a job to a member of staff from another local company, who suddenly realised the true value of their staff member and then made a very large counter offer as they realised they'd struggle to recruit a replacement with sufficient skill locally (here in Aberdeen the oil industry gnerally forces wages quite high). If you're indispensable to your company then you may find similar if the possibility of leaving occurs.

    However, I'm not sure that during a global economic downturn is a wise time to thump the bosses desk and demand a raise.

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    JAck of all trade and maser of none.
    I think you should give all your efforts to only one thing that you like doing.Be Perfectionist and give all your concentration to only one thing to be successful on life.

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    You want to be worth more? Learn the business end of your company, from sales to marketing to support. You don't have to master these things, but you do have to understand them well enough to make good decisions with those other areas in mind.

    My best employees always understood what it took to keep the lights on at the company and how to make decisions based on that understanding.

    True story: I once negotiated a 10% mid-year raise by conceiving a new marketing campaign for the little company I worked for. I was one of the lead developers at the time and no one was really paying attention to the marketing side, so I saw an opportunity that helped show the owners that I could help them improve their business results.

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    well, it seems to me you know enough - now you should better learn to use it. Not so long ago i was told "the only way to learn to do something is to start doing it" Tell us later about your success

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    you simply learn cakephp, ming and symphony. You will be worth more for sure.

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    You can look for Freelance job at many places in the net ,odest is the sample,follow some test for free ,put your score high and ready to bid.about other project I think it will be great of you learn SEO and PPC technologies.since you know many thing I am sure that wont be any problem ,the reason of doing this is.,once you know the Technique of this last 2 fields ,you can enjoy the possibility of making some revenue with google traffic and other publisher advertising material without having boss to suspect he give you underpay rate

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    Either you work as a consultant(self employed) or as an employee, try to see the things from owner perspective, which can be summed as below -

    1. How to cut cost ?

    2. How to add value ?

    3. How to multiply productivity ?

    If you can look into the concerned business from these strategic angles and can provide your services to that end, my sense is that your worth will move northwards.

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    There is nothing worse than feeling like you are being taking for granted. From now on just say No. You don't have to explain yourself to anyone and give a reason. Keep your chin up. People can only use you if you let them. Believe me I know. Best of luck to you.

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    Get database administration skills
    Network managment know how
    Content management techniques
    Document management nuts and bolts
    And think of one certification
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    It is great that you know many things especially related to coding and so on. Why don't you think of doing some certifications in some of these fields. This will certainly help you get noticed in that field. Also, if you have enough time in your hand, you can think of working as a freelancer. May be, you can try few established freelancing sites like GAF and Scriptlance. That could be helpful.

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    Perhaps take some time to specialise in a subject, we have so many people who are “average” at everything but not enough people who are field experts or leaders in a particular area. Though you may end up limiting the types of roles you will be employed for, so it’s really a double edged sword in that respect.

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    They are right why not speak to your boss about the salary. Just in case that they can't offer you higher than that why not look for another job with higher compensation..I bet there are lots over there..

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