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    Flash streaming server

    what is the best option for hosting the flv and music file for live streaming.
    i got this two option in net but want to know which one is best and how can be used.
    1.Adobe Flash Media Streaming Server 3
    2.Red5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijup View Post
    what is the best option for hosting the flv and music file for live streaming.
    i got this two option in net but want to know which one is best and how can be used.
    1.Adobe Flash Media Streaming Server 3
    2.Red5
    This might help answer your question
    1.Adobe Flash Media Streaming Server 3 cost just under $1000
    2.Red5 cost Free
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    You could also use
    wowza - has some good features (e.g icecast/shoutcast to flash stream) - $999
    haxevideo - free - (but very alpha state and tricky to program/install)

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    one of my client was telling me that the video which is played in the site is too slow so he want to increase the speed of it .

    I suggest him to use either flash Media sever of Red5 server

    now he is asking me the differences between normal sever and streaming server

    and this two streaming server.

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    Red5 server is free while Flash Media Server isnt as already pointed out by Paul.
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    Normal server use's progressive download to play your flv's in the player.
    This means that the flv is downloaded into the cache as it is being played through the browser.

    With a streaming server the flv's are streamed to the browser in byte format. This means that the flv file is kept on the server and that is not downloaded into the users cache. Streaming is the way to go if you want to keep your flv files secure.

    What is the actual problem your client is having?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [Paul Ferrie] View Post
    Normal server use's progressive download to play your flv's in the player.
    This means that the flv is downloaded into the cache as it is being played through the browser.

    With a streaming server the flv's are streamed to the browser in byte format. This means that the flv file is kept on the server and that is not downloaded into the users cache. Streaming is the way to go if you want to keep your flv files secure.

    What is the actual problem your client is having?
    he is telling that he need to wait for long time to see the video

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    Can you post a link please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [Paul Ferrie] View Post
    Can you post a link please?
    sorry i cant post the link this time.

    due to customer's nature

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    pm the link then if you don't want to make it public. Either that or make a mock that we can see and test ourselves.
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    [Paul Ferrie]

    there is link in your PM

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    You might want to try increasing the buffer amount. The video instantly loaded for me but it jittering along, stopping and starting.
    How big is the flv file?
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    do u mean to say to increase the buffer time and flash video are of about 4-5 min

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    I don't need to know the length of the video. i need to know the size of the file and the buffer amount you have set in the flv player.
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    range of 5MB to 20MB and buffer time is 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijup View Post
    range of 5MB to 20MB and buffer time is 10
    buffer time is certainly not 10 seconds. i suggest you go double check this.
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    sorry it is 2 sec

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijup View Post
    sorry it is 2 sec
    Yeah thats about right in what i saw.
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    From the perspective of video appearing to be 'slow' progressive or streaming won't necessarily make much difference.

    Progressive:
    File downloads at maximum rate allowed by web server (typically very large) but limited by users bandwidth. So the buffer fills quickly and is unlikely to have to rebuffer again as the loaded amount easily outstrips the played back amount.

    Streaming:
    Streaming server typically bursts the buffer amount at a high rate but then only transfers data at the rate required by the stream. No buffer 'overhang' is built up like in progressive, but the transfer protocol is typically more bandwidth efficient than http. Even so, a momentary interruption in connection will generally require a rebuffer.

    I'd check the following if you're doing progressive downloading:
    Download the flv directly and notice the transfer speed - it should be far higher than video bitrate presuming the video bitrate isn't close to your connection speed. If it's not then you need better hosting. If the video bitrate is close to your connection speed, and the connection speed is typical of your target users, then you should consider lowering the bitrate and possibly using a better codec to allow for more download headroom.

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    please check out this too i have used 2 sec as a buffer time.

    http://dijup.com/work/

    sometime it work smooth but sometime video runs like hell
    what will be the good config to set for this and what will be the best for streaming server and the flash player too

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    Worked fine here.
    If sometimes it doesn't stream well then that's an issue with either your local connectivity or the hosting - changing configuration won't help either of those factors.

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    yeah no probs here either. Played fine.
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    thank you

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    do we need a dedicated server to install Red5 ? and can we do it to any dedicated server or is there any limitations hosting companys make... ? thank you

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    You'll need a dedicated or vps server with root access. There shouldn't be any limitations on installing red5 on these.


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