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    Quote Originally Posted by php_daemon View Post
    Science was a LOT less exact when they first traveled the seas, when they discovered America, etc. It was then when they could "tip the balance" and cause many harm (which they did) - for thousands of years it was pure trial and error.

    Where the science is now and the fact that they are able to construct such remarkable devices is alone to tell how precise it is and how safe we are that ever before.

    It is funny how people when encountered with something they don't know, run and scream and clam doomsday and what not. Instead, how about read up some, watch videos, there is enough information explaining the ideas, theory, results, risks, tests, conclusions to give even the biggest skeptics a calm sleep.
    Very true, but there are scientists that are advising against this and wanted to stop it so they must know or suspect something, also. That is the part that bothers me in all of this. What if the septics are right? We have way to much to gamble on a "I hope it will be ok" scenario.

    I'm not sure I believe in the big bang theory as it is known now. I think we have got as lot of growing to do in the scientific field before anything can be proven one way or another about it.

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    The scientists that were against it called upon extra research which has confirmed over and over again that it is safe. Billions of equivalent "experiments" occur in nature yet we still live, why would we stop living if we made a few of them for ourselves and have a close look at them?

    This is exactly the process of growing. And I think we already grew out of the stage where personal interests of certain powers is put in front of everything. Especially when talking of things that will benefit each end every one of us.

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    Oh my god! We're all still here Oh well...

    I was watching the news and they did an interview with Stephen Hawkings and he said the world will not end today, sorry

    But it's exciting news that it works. They will not bring it upto full speed until next year, so is next year going to be the end of the world?

    I also watched Sky At Night and they did not mention anything about this experiment but did show loads of other galaxy's which was quite interesting.

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    well..its already 12 today..no further explanation..LOL
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    Read in the news this morning that a 12 year old Indian girl was so upset over those reports that the world was about to end that she killed herself.

    Does anyone know where we can find information on how many thousands or millions of collisions such as the ones the new equipment is set up to create on demand that occur naturally somewhere on Earth each day?
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    This world will exist until I perish

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    Quote Originally Posted by felgall View Post
    Read in the news this morning that a 12 year old Indian girl was so upset over those reports that the world was about to end that she killed herself.
    Damn.

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    Does anyone know where we can find information on how many thousands or millions of collisions such as the ones the new equipment is set up to create on demand that occur naturally somewhere on Earth each day?
    http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0954-3899/35/11/115004/

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    Seems I underestimated how often those events occur in nature. Something that occurs 10,000,000,000,000 times a second in nature isn't going to suddenly cause the world to end just because they manage to create a low powered equivalent event artificially. Now if it were a high powered one that they were going to create artificially it might be different but with current technology levels there isn't a big enough power source available.
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    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkinstall View Post
    Lol
    ditto
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    These ppl havent learned anything from Black Mesa ???

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    I hope that wasn't a serious remark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by felgall View Post
    Read in the news this morning that a 12 year old Indian girl was so upset over those reports that the world was about to end that she killed herself.
    Don't believe everything you hear/read especially when it is about India...
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    Don't believe everything you hear/read especially when it is about India...
    I agree with you on the first part, but it's very general. India has nothing to do with it other than her location - try and keep politics out of it.
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    Yep, no politics in this thread please only science

    That webcam is funny But what great progress they have made which I hope they do find an answer to what did happen after the big bang, plus any other experiments theydo.

    All exciting stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkinstall View Post
    I agree with you on the first part, but it's very general. India has nothing to do with it other than her location - try and keep politics out of it.
    I am afraid I didn't express myself properly.....I was referring to the Indian media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spence_noodle View Post
    YBut what great progress they have made which I hope they do find an answer to what did happen after the big bang.
    I'm more interested in knowing what happened BEFORE the Big Bang. If you want to know what happened after the Big Bang, just ask me.

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    The Big Bang was just the previous race of people blowing themselves up with a particle accelerator. Thanks to them we're here. We're just keeping the cycle going.

    I can't wait to see those muons fly!!!
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    My theory is that at one point, the big bang will reverse into the big crunch. The density of the central object will be so large that protons, electrons, neutrons - etc - will be ripped from one another and the force of this will kickstart the next big bang.

    Why do I think they're ripped apart from each other?

    Think of carbon-dating. It tells us how old the object is - from the time its atoms were first put together. What if the universe loops over and over again.

    Personally I cannot possibly imagine there being nothing before the big bang.

    I don't think anyone can.
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    Well, my vacation is over. Back to work. A good moment for the world to come to an end

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkinstall View Post
    Personally I cannot possibly imagine there being nothing before the big bang.

    I don't think anyone can.
    i can -- it's easy

    before the big bang IS NULL

    understanding SQL helps to grasp the true meaning

    by the way, IS NULL is not the same as "being nothing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by r937 View Post
    i can -- it's easy

    before the big bang IS NULL

    understanding SQL helps to grasp the true meaning

    by the way, IS NULL is not the same as "being nothing"

    Do a MYSQL query to find out.

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    Just because the world didn't end when they steered the first proton beam doesn't mean it won't when they start smashing the beams into each other, which is what can cause miniature black holes and all the other stuff people worry about.

    What'd be most interesting, though, is if the world ends because of the LHC before the experiment that ends it is run... at these energy levels, an experiment could theoretically cause phenomena in the past.


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