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    which countires are in your block list?

    *This post is not meant to hurt anyone's feelings, but to protect the online retailer from frauds.

    Hi, I'm trying to find a reliable source for a list of countries that it's fairly ok to send my goods to.

    Of course some scammers do live in the USA and UK and Japan, but I'm looking for the black list of countries, the ones that it's not worth to start doing busienss with.

    After blocking the Nigeria and several other African countries, I still wonder which ones I should be careful from.


    Your feedback will be appreciated.

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    The only country i've blocked in the past was China, on my proxy website. Other than that I don't bother.

    the ones that it's not worth to start doing busienss with.
    What do you mean? Couldn't you just specify that you don't do business with X countries? What type of a site are you running?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Possibility View Post
    The only country i've blocked in the past was China, on my proxy website. Other than that I don't bother.



    Couldn't you just specify that you don't do business with X countries?
    You are right, and I apologize for my faulty way of expression, let me rephrase it.

    If you do not do business with X countries, X=?

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    Much spam from russia, so they are closed.

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    Russia and Nigeria.

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    There's a huge amount of fraud from Russia and Nigeria for sure. Countries like North Korea are usually blocked as well, not that it matters a lot, I think barely more than 0% of the country has internet access.
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    You'll have an easier time creating an allow list than a block list, just pick the 15 or so countries that you would consider shipping to and disallow any orders from outside those.

    So

    Canada
    USA
    Australia
    New Zealand
    Western Europe
    Japan

    That's about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tke71709 View Post
    You'll have an easier time creating an allow list than a block list, just pick the 15 or so countries that you would consider shipping to and disallow any orders from outside those.

    So

    Canada
    USA
    Australia
    New Zealand
    Western Europe
    Japan

    That's about it...
    We've shipped to far more countries than that... I can think of these right off the top of my head...

    Afghanistan (army base)
    Australia
    Bahamas
    Belgium
    Canada
    China
    Costa Rica
    Denmark
    Dominican Republic
    France
    Germany
    Greece
    India
    Ireland
    Iraq (army base)
    Israel
    Italy
    Jamaica
    Japan
    Mexico
    New Zealand
    Norway
    Netherlands
    Phillipines
    Puerto Rico
    Spain
    Sweden
    Switzerland
    United Arab Emirates
    United Kingdom
    United States
    Both Virgin Islands


    ...

    There are only a couple places I've decided not to ship to, and Nigeria is one of the main ones. We've had some legitimate order inquiries from there too, but it's probably a stereotype from the spam emails I get, but I just have a bad feeling about it.

    I had reservations sending an order to China... not a big fan of the country & communist government, but we did. It wasn't the guy's fault he lived there, and he's a great customer and has ordered from us 2 or 3 times now.

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    South Africa is another country that's very problematic with shipping... Even Amazon.com recently stopped shipping except via courier (DHL/FedEx/UPS).
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    we do not blacklist any countries, but from certain ones we accept only secure methods of payments

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    We have a very small blacklist, but a rather large greylist.

    Like Matt said, shipping fraud can be more of a problem than credit card fraud. There are some countries that are we require special shipping methods to.
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    Let me tell you something. Sometimes scammers from Nigeria place an order to be shipped in the states. If you block them from the site [apache] they will just use proxy to get in the site via a US IP. If you don't block them, you'll see they are from Africa and cancel the order.

    So you shouldn't black list any country, because then they will bypass it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Mickiewicz View Post
    South Africa is another country that's very problematic with shipping... Even Amazon.com recently stopped shipping except via courier (DHL/FedEx/UPS).
    yes you are right! beware of South Africa.. I think South Africa tops Nigeria today in Africa. I'm not sure though but i have heared few cases in India.

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    Sorry Togo & Senegal. Two particular sites I operate have blocks for these countries and the list is growing. One site has a sideline of dating for local people on it - in the UK's Northeast - but I get people joining daily from overseas, mainly from these two countries... and then the "I love you" messages and winks start rolling in and in and in and in and in and in and in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EveryoneCollects View Post
    Sorry Togo & Senegal. Two particular sites I operate have blocks for these countries and the list is growing. One site has a sideline of dating for local people on it - in the UK's Northeast - but I get people joining daily from overseas, mainly from these two countries... and then the "I love you" messages and winks start rolling in and in and in and in and in and in and in...
    According to the dateline credit card fraud special, the scammers surf dating sites like these to lure people into fake relationships so they can ship to their houses then send the goods on to third world countries from there.
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    We have chosen the "white list" route of allowing certain countries to be shipped to.

    We initially started off with a smaller list and then put a little note next to our shipping drop down menu in the checkout that told people how they could request their country be added.

    Australia
    Austria
    Belgium
    Brazil
    Canada
    Denmark
    France
    Germany
    Hong Kong
    Hungary
    Indonesia
    Italy
    Macao
    Netherlands
    New Zealand
    Norway
    Philippines
    Poland
    Russia
    Singapore
    Spain
    Sweden
    Switzerland
    Taiwan
    Thailand
    United Kingdom
    United States
    Venezuela

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    Malaysia
    Nigerian
    Vietnamese
    Russian
    Iran
    Pakistan
    Afghanistan
    Argentina
    etc..


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