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    keyword density

    Could you advise what optimal density of keywords on a web page is if check it by 1,2 or 3 words?

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    Not really sure what you're asking, but there are programs out there that will do a density analysis on your websites for free. I believe WebCEO does it, and you can use their free version.
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    Yes, I know this, but I don't know what keyword density is optimal for a web page. I am afraid of being punished by Google and other search engines as result of overusing keywords.

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    The webseo does it yes. They provide you point exact information. However, I have been recently studying a blog, very informative, they say, They do not believe in the keywords density, and it does not help at all.

    I will ask on of administrators and then look in the situation to post the link, if it is allowed by the forum administrators

    Regards

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    Unless you're dealing with headings, page titles, anchor text, or title/image alt attributes, you'll quickly find that there is no such thing as keyword density. Just write your content for the people who will be reading it instead of the search engines and you'll be far better off.

    Remember, writing for the search engines is the least sticky strategy of all.

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    Dan - I agree to your post.

    Thank you sparing your time to post a comment.

    Thanks

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    You're welcome.

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    As for me, KW density is not a big issue anymore. =p

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    density analysis on your website is needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Beam View Post
    density analysis on your website is needed
    Not necessarily

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    My seo guy says that you should try to keep the keyword you are targeting at a density level of 5% in your post. Any more than that, and there's danger of it looking like spamming to the search engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Schulz View Post
    Unless you're dealing with headings, page titles, anchor text, or title/image alt attributes, you'll quickly find that there is no such thing as keyword density. Just write your content for the people who will be reading it instead of the search engines and you'll be far better off.

    Remember, writing for the search engines is the least sticky strategy of all.
    Dan is right, when we are writing contents for our websites, lets put first into consideration our human reader; secondly our search engine spiders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandyrob View Post
    My seo guy says that you should try to keep the keyword you are targeting at a density level of 5% in your post. Any more than that, and there's danger of it looking like spamming to the search engines.
    Your seo guy should listen to more Rage Against The Machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Schulz View Post
    Unless you're dealing with headings, page titles, anchor text, or title/image alt attributes, you'll quickly find that there is no such thing as keyword density. Just write your content for the people who will be reading it instead of the search engines and you'll be far better off.

    Remember, writing for the search engines is the least sticky strategy of all.
    Although keyword percentages are no longer important, when writing for your reader, you should be sure that the main keywords you are targeting are prominent on the page for the search engines. For instance, recently I wrote content for someone that has a particular niche in a service business. The client wanted to target "commercial services" which is a very poor choice of keywords because it could mean plumbers, electricians, accountants, caterers, real estate agents and a host of others. Moreover, your page should target the specialty of that page. If you're a plumber who installs showers, don't target plumber -- it's too general. Make sure that the keywords that you use are specific to what the reader wants to see on the page, i.e. what he/she would put into a search query.
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    Ya know, I meant to include that as well, Linda. What I meant was not writing for the search engines at the expense of the person reading the page.

    I'm sure you knew that though.

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    you guys are so professional!

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    I read about 2-6% of your main keyword phrase in the article.
    It is wise to not only write for your visitors, but to be search engine friendly too.
    A balance is key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfhelpebooks View Post
    I read about 2-6% of your main keyword phrase in the article.
    Where did you read this? How do you know it's true?

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    It's generally said that 6-8% is the optimal keyword/keyphrase density to make you site seem as relevant as possible to the search engines.

    However selling ability should always take priority over SEO. Add in a few extra keywords where relevant but don't make it seem artificially stuffed or it will do more harm than good. The effect of keyword density on SERPs is minimal compared to the damage you will do to your sales conversion rate if your reduce the quality of your sales copy.

    Hope this helps.

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    I've also heard on a podcast that 5% is about right, I think 2% is a little low. But agree the actual content is more important.

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    I don't believe in keyword density, but I do believe in keyword harmony on the page. So try having the keyword relevant to the content in your title, description, headings, bold/ital, etc. Just make sure you're not spamming it.

    Working as a content writer for the past 5 years, I had many a client asking for keyword rich articles and most had me insert the keywords so that they have a 3-5% density (that's 20-25 keywords in a 500 word article). I guess if you really want to up your density, that's the percentage to use.

    Keyword density could also be important in creating the relevancy of your content (which is important for publishing networks that are content based, AdSense for example).

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    Tudi you are spot on with that 3-5% density (that's 20-25 keywords in a 500 word article)

    I think the most important thing is this win the heart of the reader and be balance with the search engines.

    Do not do things to quick.

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    From what I have seen the "optimal keyword density" for google is unknown. Some have success with very low density, others with really hiegh density.

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    You can determine the optimal density by reading the content to see if you get the impression that it has been keyword-optimized. Add keywords to increase density but if you smell something, clean it up.


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