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    Anyone know free alternative to Dreamweaver??

    Hello,

    I'm working on a website in dreamweaver using the Dreamweaver template system, at slower then turtle speed.

    I'm running CS3 on osx, and I've noticed that pages with alot of <div> tags causes dreamweaver to freeze for more then 10 secs. Everytime I click the page to make an edit, or press enter to go to the next paragraph... i need to literally wait 20 sec.

    I feel like im moving so slow, and I have never experienced this in dreamweaver before, but this is the first site in which i'm actually utilizing alot of div tags.

    I'm curious what would be the closet match to dreamweaver and have some sort of template system although not really important.

    My only requirements is free, osx leopard compatible, creates and/or validates proper html/css coding.


    Aside from new suggestions, I'm also curious what everyone thinks about these open source web editing programs I've found while doing my research:

    - http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html
    - http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/index.php
    - http://www.evrsoft.com/1stpage2.shtml
    - http://www.chami.com/html-kit/
    - http://www.pagebreeze.com/
    - http://www.aptana.com/products/studio/community

    Look forward to see what I will learn from everyones responses here

    Thank you in advance.

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    I would just suggest you use includes instead of templates and stay as far away as possible from evrsoft.com

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    I've used PageBreeze before. But it was so long ago I can hardly remember. I just remember the reason I stopped using it was because I had downloaded the free trial for Dreamweaver MX 2004 and eventually bought it because it had better support for PHP and CSS.

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    Sorry for my late response, but I wanted to thank both of you for taking the time to reply. .

    I've finished the website I was working on, even with all the slowness. I don't plan on using another website with so many divs anytime soon.

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    Why not just use a text editor?
    Logic without the fatal effects.
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    I use Dreamweaver CS3 and will not easily change. I know the code but DW makes it just so much easier and faster. CSS and SSI are an absolute breeze and work very well. The template that they have are a little cluncky but with some minor modifications are very useable. For the uninitiated, DW templates are not like the ones you purchase from TemplateMonster for e.g. but are rather the bare bones of a site and then you work from there.

    As to the slowness you experienced I have nothing of it at all and can only think that there must have been a setting incorrect to cause this. The number of divs doesn't seem to make any diff to me.
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    While not matching your requirement of being free, but we made good experiences with Softpress' Freeway (http://www.softpress.com). Perhaps you like to give it a try.
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    I use HTMLKit in Windows and BlueFish in Ubuntu.
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    text editors are best for CSS and html templates. Most are free.
    htmlvalidator.com is great for checking your code and has a free version.
    Then you need a sitebuilder or simple CMS to store your content and parse it into your template. try things like pureseocms.com which has a free version to.

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    Thank you all for taking the time to reply back to this. I'm still actively searching, and I also have no idea why the slowness occurs while working with div tags.

    I'm sure i'll find an answer sooner or later

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    HTML Kit for HTML and Top style for the CSS

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    Exclamation

    You won`t find free software for web design (i.e. creating web pages) with features close to Dreamweaver`s features.

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    PSPad is awesome, its just awesome

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    I really enjoyed using Aptana. I prefer to code by hand, but when I needed something like Dreameweaver, Aptana did a great job

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    I think there might be some problem with your div tags, if you are using nested div tags then your Dreamweaver may not work effectively, try to optimise your code. you can try upgrading RAM of your PC lol

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    I've been using Dreamweaver for years, works good

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    One of Dreamweaver features I couldn`t find in any other software for web site design is working with templates (.dwt) - you can update some parts of all web pages of your web site with only one click. There is no other web editor that can do it.

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    you may want to look at this thread:
    http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346481
    and IMO Komposer -formerly known as nvu- (http://www.kompozer.net/) is a good choice!

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    Yeah, I've taken a shot at replacing Dreamweaver a few times before but always seem to come back to it. Lately I've been using Aptana and I'm actually very happy with it. I think I can finally drop Dreamweaver from my "must install" list (about time).

    If you're curious I did write (a few weeks ago) a super brief blog post about Aptana as a Dreamweaver alternative. I definitely suggest you check out Aptana Studio.
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    I like using Notepad and KompoZer. Someone introduced me to nVu (now KompoZer as mentioned above) a couple of years ago and I haven't looked back since.

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    1. Davor's PHP Editor
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    When I started using DreamWeaver all I was doing was creating static pages and I though it was great. I have now started finding out how powerfult this program really is when you start building dynamic pages. I makes connecting to Databases, inserting, updating etc. etc all a breeze. DW creates most of the PHP and SQL code on the fly and makes building dynamic sites so easy.'

    I'm sure that I still have not plumbed the depths of all the DW features yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Tranquility View Post
    IMO Komposer -formerly known as nvu- (http://www.kompozer.net/) is a good choice!
    Daniel Glazman, the author of Nvu, is currently working on a new visual HTML editor called Blue Griffon. It is based on Mozilla code so it will have all the delicious features that Firefox has and will have. There hasn't been a release yet, but I'm eager to have my hands on it ASAP

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    Id go with aptana

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    Tried Aptana yesterday, but it's full of windows, options and buttons, not my cup of tea. You first need a manual to set everything.
    There normally is a php function to debug that didn't work, and view php pages in a local server area, didn't work that good too as on my own webspace. Perhaps lots of properties to set in the options of the software. But I don't like setting all stuff I don't know about.


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