PHP editors

**DR_LaRRY_PEpPeR** · Mar 27, 2002, 19:04

Originally posted by scoates
Notepad?
Ok. I understand (to a point), but really, you're being unproductive.

Here are a few bad things re:Notepad that pop into my mind:
-It doesn't keep indents.
-60/64k/whateverk file size limit.

what do you mean about indents? i open multi-megabyte files all the time in Win2k's Notepad.

32K limit on 9x, i thought.

Originally posted by voostind
Oh, and to those Notepad users: the ONLY reason you're using it, is because you've never tried anything else, am I right?

no.

everything else seems too bloated. the only thing i sometimes use is NoteTab Light when i want line numbers.

**Cabbage** · Mar 27, 2002, 19:33

Why write code when there is a program that will write it for you. I just found this one last week.

JANEBuilder

**scoates** · Mar 27, 2002, 19:44

I mean, if I do this:

PHP Code:


if (some_condition) {

    execute_this();

    and_execute_this();

}

When I press enter after "execute_this();", my cursor stays indented 4 characters in most (coding) editors. In notepad, I have to re-indent myself. Which is fine.. unless you're 8 levels deep.

S

**DR_LaRRY_PEpPeR** · Mar 27, 2002, 19:58

oh yeah, i got ya.

NoteTab can keep your indents like that, but it seems weird to me since i'm used to quickly tabbing over in Notepad. besides, when i want to unindent, then i have to backspace.

**scoates** · Mar 27, 2002, 20:18

textpad will let you hilight a block of text and press tab to indent the whole block.
I can also hilight said block and CTRL-SHIFT-I to unindent it.

I think Ultraedit automatically indents after typing {
and unidents after you type } (unindents the } even).
It's really nice. (-:

S

**Majglow** · Mar 27, 2002, 21:49

you can't do ctrl-s to save in notepad.... that's bad enough for me.

-cARL

**scoates** · Mar 27, 2002, 21:54

you can in notepad/win2k (-:

S

**redemption** · Mar 28, 2002, 04:43

Originally posted by Majglow
you can't do ctrl-s to save in notepad.... that's bad enough for me.

oh my god

that's exactly it!... Alt-F then S is so 20th century...

for those of you without Win2k or WinXP and don't want to buy it for Notepad

:
use an editor like ultraedit or editplus... they're not bloated and have syntax coloring...

**Richi** · Mar 28, 2002, 05:01

guys ..
Ultraedit-32 is the best, it`s like notepad but with more future !

oh my god that's exactly it!... Alt-F then S is so 20th century...

hehe ur right

**i_like_php** · Mar 28, 2002, 05:29

Originally posted by Aes
NotePad is quite nice, isn't it?

-Colin

indeed it is

**Theiggsta** · Mar 28, 2002, 06:05

Zend Studio is nice, actually its extremely nice for everything it can do. Almost like running Microsoft Visual C++ but for PHP.

So far ultra edit seems to be rather bulky and it needs to have more coder-convienient features such as indenting and code reformatting.

The other runner up which is homesite is great for barebones editing overall, but it wont have as much power as PHP IDE's can.

PHPEd is quite nice actually, a bit confusing to use at first but it does have a few holes in the program (infact one of my scripts crashed it).

Right now I use Editplus (since its very cheap to buy) but im very annoyed at editplus insisting on using PC format instead of UNIX.

So all i can say thus far is...there hasnt been a program yet that has impressed me, feature wise.

I might tryout Nuspheres IDE, but for its price, it doesnt seem to be worth it. However I see it coming in handy for a large project or speeding up debugging for contract jobs, so it would endup paying for itself rather quickly.

**TheOriginalH** · Mar 28, 2002, 06:15

Originally posted by Theiggsta
I might tryout Nuspheres IDE, but for its price, it doesnt seem to be worth it. However I see it coming in handy for a large project or speeding up debugging for contract jobs, so it would endup paying for itself rather quickly.

Not the final version - but this release has loads of the main features, and is free.

**weirdbeardmt** · Mar 28, 2002, 06:19

I have always used Notepad, and the only gripes I have with it are

1) No line numbers
2) Its refusal to remember the file extension when opening (it always defaults to .txt which can get annoying).

The other day though I picked up HydraPHP and have been using it. It's very cool -- gives you a browser mode to. It's like a stripped down DW. Haven't played around too much, but it seems cool.

**ckchin** · Mar 28, 2002, 15:12

Before I use the EditPlus, I used the TextPad. BUT, I found that the TextPad have bug in their printing feature which result duplicate or miss printing the codes. After that I change to EditPlus and stick to it for now or for more than 2 years.

**seanf** · Mar 28, 2002, 15:24

Originally posted by weirdbeardmt
1) No line numbers
2) Its refusal to remember the file extension when opening (it always defaults to .txt which can get annoying)

1) XP (don't know about 2k) has statusbar line numbers

2) Come on, it's only 4 characters (.php)

Sean

**Shantra** · Mar 28, 2002, 15:26

I bet all my money on Arachnophilia!!!
I just love the programmable buttons++

**=X¥®µ§=** · Mar 28, 2002, 15:37

I'm voting for www.editplus.com too...

I've tried about all the editors and thisone is imho the best...but it all depends on personal feeling...I think everyone should try them all and then decide for himself...

**DR_LaRRY_PEpPeR** · Mar 28, 2002, 17:43

Originally posted by seanf
1) XP (don't know about 2k) has statusbar line numbers

NOOOO!

are you serious? got a screen shot?

man, line numbers would make it THE perfect editor for me. hmmmm, i wonder if XP's notepad.exe would run on 2k?

**weirdbeardmt** · Mar 29, 2002, 07:28

Originally posted by seanf

2) Come on, it's only 4 characters (.php)

Yeh but everytime you have to keep changing the select menu thingy from .txt to ALL files if you are trying to OPEN a file (not save...) -- it can get a little frustrating to have to keep changing it to all files. Now I just leave the dir folder open and drag and drop the file into Notepad, it is so much easier!

**seanf** · Mar 29, 2002, 13:03

Matt1: I am on 98 till I get my new computer (see my custom title), but as soon as I'm back on I'll send you the exe

Matt2: Drag and Drop!

Sean

**ALSLG** · Apr 1, 2002, 18:44

I tried WinXP's notepad.exe on Win2K and status bar view is grayed out in the menu

Michel
ALSLG

**Eric.Coleman** · Apr 1, 2002, 19:15

Turn WordWrap off then...

**phpPete** · Apr 1, 2002, 21:14

I like UltraEdit or Homesite.

I'm checking out PHPedit, which seems fairly capable, decent debugger, code insight and has a pretty small footprint.

**MarekS** · Jan 29, 2003, 06:46

Strange – no one has mentioned the Maguma Studio for PHP.

No problemo, I'll break the chain

I just found it, and I'm currently testing it.
At least te first impression is not so bad.

Check it out!

Maguma Studio download page

- MarekS -

**Dr Livingston** · Jan 29, 2003, 09:32

http://sourceforge.net/projects/php4ue/

is a broken link

I use dreamweaver MX but it uses a lot of resources so now I mostly use crimson editor (www.crimsoneditor.com) which does have colour coding for the most part, for PHP, Java, Perl, ASP et al.

Though what I want to know is, where can I get a copy of UltraEdit?

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