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    Designer owes me money... how do I get my money back?

    There is a Web designer who owes me money... and he is unable to pay, but is willing to pay me back with his work. He is definately really good, but I have no idea how to go about selling his work... Any idea?

    I know there is Sitepoint Marketplace. But how do I go about selling PSD's on there for $300 each?

    Any other suggestions?
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    Work out a payment plan with him. You don't need to burden of finding him work -- see if he can pay you back in installments.

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    A payment plan is a good idea, but make it a condition of the plan that if he can afford to pay you more than the agreed weekly / monthly amount, then he must do so.

    Are you sure he can't pay, or is it that he won't pay?
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    SitePoint Wizard maartenvr's Avatar
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    I'm sure he is able to pay some... And the deal was to have monthly payments but they are just not coming through
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    If he seems like a good person, maybe it would be worth helping him. If he produces quality work too, maybe it will be easy to sell it. I would recommend some specific task where people are already looking to buy stuff such as templates for web applications.

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    Maybe I'm getting hard-hearted in my old age, but seriously, do you think my doctor, lawyer, or account will let me pay my bill by agreeing to sell my service output for me? What about my plumber? You know, this sound just to good to be true. Maarten, I would like to work for you under those terms.

    If this person owes you money and is unable to pay you, have him sell his work on his own and divert the payments to you. It sounds like a racket to me and that you would be doing a lot of unnecessary work yourself to collect what is owed to you.

    Negotiate a regular payment with him and make it clear that after X days late with a payment, you'll turn him into collections... and make sure you get his agreement to pay in writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyflower View Post
    Maybe I'm getting hard-hearted in my old age, but seriously, do you think my doctor, lawyer, or account will let me pay my bill by agreeing to sell my service output for me? What about my plumber? You know, this sound just to good to be true. Maarten, I would like to work for you under those terms.

    If this person owes you money and is unable to pay you, have him sell his work on his own and divert the payments to you. It sounds like a racket to me and that you would be doing a lot of unnecessary work yourself to collect what is owed to you.

    Negotiate a regular payment with him and make it clear that after X days late with a payment, you'll turn him into collections... and make sure you get his agreement to pay in writing.

    Absolutely.

    If he owes you money, focus on recovering the money. End of.

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    Do you have any projects in the pipeline that you need a design for, that you could bring forward? You could try an installment plan; but get it in writing and make sure he knows in no uncertain terms that if he misses a payment you will turn it over to a collection service and that he will be liable for the additional costs.
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    good deeds always comes back to you....

    Help him by whichever way you can and one day you'll get the benefit of it... may be from some other source..

    Payment plan, selling his service, getting something done for yourself(a website for your business, family....)

    Too melodramatic?? not really.

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    get prepaid legal, and sue him

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    depends on how much he owes you. if it's a large amount you might go out of your way to get him some work etc. however I think a payment plan or just forgeting about it is the best solution if the amount is not to big. might not worth the trouble. Try one something like elance to get him some decently paid designs, sitepoint marketplace or similar etc
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    Payment plan is best if you can get them to pay. If it is a small amount of money you might have to write it off because it could cost more money to sue than the money owed.

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    Get a collection agency.

    You only pay if they manage to collect for you.
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    Ha, listings on the market place cost money. So you'd be spending your own money, as well as your time, to get money already owed to you. Sounds like something fairies would do when running a business in fairy land.

    Keep following up with the incremental payments - become a squeaky wheel, and don't feel guilty about trying to collect. Making money is what business is about.
    If you can't get paid, write it off as a bad debt, but be sure to learn something. I know I have in the past.

    Good luck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cranial-bore View Post
    Sounds like something fairies would do when running a business in fairy land.

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    Allright... Got the payment plan happening. Received the first payment this week, just need to keep my fingers crosshead every month
    Maarten


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