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    logo designers -- question

    what is the best program and add on's to create a quality design. non flash needed?

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    For logo design, it's hands-down Illustrator. The main reason being because Illustrator is a vector program, which will make sizing of the logo easier and will render high-quality results.
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    A quality design ?

    A brain and hands.

    Whatever program you go with is just a tool for you to express your own creativity.

    For the most useful logos you're going to want to make them vector therefore some type of vector editing software.

    Illustrator is by far the best but very very expensive with one steep learning curve.

    If you're just testing the waters I'd suggest something more cost effective. Maybe even Freehand or Corel Draw.




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    I second what SotD said, An application is just an extension of your soul to capture your creative energy... Or something...
    CorelDRAW or Inkscape seem to be great and somewhat cheaper.
    I would suggest using pencil and paper to mock up a logo, get it set in your mind then attempt it in an application whichever it may be.
    If you don't feel confident you may want to hire a graphic designer that way they can make it in a way that is usable in all circumstances etc. Web, 4/4 Printing, Offset printing, Large formats, Vinyl Etc...

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    photoshop is the master of Design!

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    Well... Not if you want to use it for anything other than printed works or the web...
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    i'm really only looking for something that will be on the web. perhaps a tshirt thingy place (i know so technical) , but nothing serious beyond that right now.... what would it cost to have some one do a design for me? I have photoshop, and can do a few manipulations w/ it, but nothing like what i 'see' in my mind.

    i just want to be unique and -- representative

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    Software doesn't make work unique and representative – the individual does.

    The best and most well known logos were designed without any software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macarthur View Post
    CorelDRAW or Inkscape seem to be great and somewhat cheaper.
    Not only somwhat cheaper, Inkscape is free - You probably will find a lot of tutorials for it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lady View Post
    i'm really only looking for something that will be on the web. perhaps a tshirt thingy place (i know so technical) , but nothing serious beyond that right now....
    However, in my opinion, you really should do it in vector from the start anyway. But if you're not up to it, this doesn't have to cost much, try a contest perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddz View Post
    Software doesn't make work unique and representative – the individual does.

    The best and most well known logos were designed without any software.
    yes it is the person who creates the unique content, design ect, however the right tools are needed to do so.

    perhaps the contest suggestion might be the best option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer001
    photoshop is the master of Design!
    Quote Originally Posted by macarthur
    Well... Not if you want to use it for anything other than printed works or the web...
    For future reference, you don't bother to answer comments like that, macarthur.




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    Do you logo designers use any supporting graphical packages for motifs that you then adapt into your logos? So many logo demos I've seen seem to have like high quality clipart style symbols etc, obviously others are drawn by hand. Just wondered what "packs of images" if any you guys use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper1106 View Post
    Do you logo designers use any supporting graphical packages for motifs that you then adapt into your logos? So many logo demos I've seen seem to have like high quality clipart style symbols etc, obviously others are drawn by hand. Just wondered what "packs of images" if any you guys use?
    Well I think that the base for creating a logo is an inspiration, and from there is the technique you use that will make a difference.
    You can use any photograph to inspire you, and if you have the copyrights, maybe trace directly from it.

    Other good source of icons are the Dingbats fonts (the ones with lots of little pictures), you can convert them to curves and start to modify them. Again check the copyrights issues.

    Illustrator is the standard if you want to go to print, but Freehand and CorelDraw are very powerful also.

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    its between photoshop and illustrator there the best graphical applications around for producing logos
    my portfolio.. www.timothyblake.com

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    I use Photoshop for almost everything. It is so powerful tool!

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    Photoshop is indeed a powerful tool, however, you woulden't use it to make a logo...

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    If you're new to this field and have to learn a new program - it's probably worth your time/money to get illustrator even though it's difficult to start learning.

    I went to my local library and found great resources online to help me get started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grenland View Post
    Photoshop is indeed a powerful tool, however, you woulden't use it to make a logo...
    I use Photoshop successfully for logo design.

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    Professional logo that you can use it for web or print has to be vector. There are many vector editors. I'm using Illustrator, but I admire open source and I'm trying to play with Inkscape from time to time. Read more about the new release here
    and you know best things in life are always free ....

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    Alright, macarthur. I take it back...

    Quote Originally Posted by chlopzmazur
    I use Photoshop for almost everything. It is so powerful tool!
    Quote Originally Posted by Designer001
    photoshop is the master of Design!
    Quote Originally Posted by Scathmere
    I use Photoshop successfully for logo design.

    That's fantastic if all you're going to do is use it for electronic media.

    Vector logos can be scaled enormously and can therefore be used for both web and print. Even if you're printing a billboard !

    Also working in vector makes you more conscious of the number of colours you're using, and for the most useful logos you're going to want to keep this number down.

    Why?... If you ever intend to use it for printing, fewer colours mean a cheaper price and better reproduction.

    So again, nothing is wrong with using Photoshop or any other pixel-editing software to design logos. But know that the most useful logos will need to be vector.




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    Illustrator traditionally, no doubt about it. However many web logos are made in Photoshop.
    Hot Hot Flash Files, Gallery/Portfolios, Menus, RSS etc.
    ^ Free as well as commercial flash files.

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    i just wanted to thank everyone in the thread for their information. I'm preparing to post in the marketplace for a steady logo designer - i've been playing w/ photo shop and have been able to only create one logo for my sites, so i'm going to need some one who can do a more effective job than i've been able to do.

    I have looked into the ink... but can't get it working as well as i'd like to. i guess i need to just caulk this one up to a need to outsource... thank you tho for everything!

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    I would use Illustrator for a logo, its my favorite piece of software ever made. It's very hard to learn at first like ShaunOD said, but if you learn it you'll won't regret it.

    I heard freehand was good but I've never used it and its not updated anymore.

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    With illustrator you can give a much cleaner, higher quality look to your logos which is great for print. If it's something small for the web then I'd personally use photoshop as I find it more suitable for websites and it gives better web-based options to enhance your site.

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    I have been using photoshop for years but just recently been playing with Inkscape for vector graphics and with no price tag (free), it has been a easy choice.


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