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    New to SEO...but got an offer...

    I'm a web designer & developer, very new to SEO.
    I've read about SEO and know very little about it.
    I've got an offer to work on a site for SEO.

    Since I'm very new to this techniques...I don't know
    how and where to start with.

    Please help me with your suggestions.

    Thanks

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    SEO is such a huge field, I suggest you read your pants off on the topic before fiddling with the site.

    THIS is a great article for beginners, and one you should learn alot from.
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    You came to the right place, this is a very good forum for SEO advice.

    I suggest you spend $200 on the Sitepoint SEM kit, I did and it was worth every penny. You'll very quickly recoup your expenditure on this first job and it will set you up to provide SEO professionally. As well as teaching SEO it provides all the forms you need.

    (I don't work for sitepoint by the way, I only post here because the kit was so good I thought I'd check out the forum)
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    One thing to add to my earlier post, don't reject the work because you are inexperienced. Take it by the balls. Learn
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    Quote Originally Posted by alecrust View Post
    One thing to add to my earlier post, don't reject the work because you are inexperienced. Take it by the balls. Learn
    Yes..... but make sure you provide a professional service to the required standard at the same time and I can testify that doing that when you're inexperienced can be extremely stressful (not SEO, this was something else).

    Blag by all means but you gotta be able to back it up before they twig.
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    I've got an offer to work on a site for SEO.
    SEO requries skills. I think that you'd better refuse that job. First learn more.
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    SitePoint Guru alecrust's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure
    Blag by all means but you gotta be able to back it up before they twig.
    No need to blag anything. Just learn enough in a short period of time, that you can actually make a difference.
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    I work as a professional SEO and I can say that reading and writing are key. Know what SE's look for and how to use elements to make it work are vital. There are ALOT of ppl claiming to be SEO's and yet dont know what things like sandbox, density ratio and unique content are. Its a very huge area and most 'noobs' dont get the flow of it after a year.
    My suggestion is to read, read and you guessed it, read. Learning anywhere and everywhere you can, is what makes the difference. Dont ever think you know it all.

    Good luck.

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    Well I would do some analysis on the site first. Incoming links is a huge factor in getting rankings for competitive terms. If the site isn't really linkable, doesn't have many current links or you don't feel like getting new incoming links for the site then don't expect it to rank for any competitive keyword phrases.

    If the site already has a bunch of incoming links but none of the pages have good titles or headings or the internal link architecture needs tweaking then it should be a fairly decent site to work with.

    Also, just make sure the client doesn't have unrealistic expectations like being #1 for competitive terms.

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    Keyword research is also very important.

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    Smile Thank you!

    Thank you all...for giving your valuable time on answering this...

    @alecrust & JJMcClure

    I'm motivated by your points...
    Being a sitepointer, I love all their books & kits and
    I'm sure 'Sitepoint SEM kit' would be my Bible on SEO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alecrust View Post
    No need to blag anything. Just learn enough in a short period of time, that you can actually make a difference.
    I disagree, blagging is a great way to get ahead till you can actually do the things you say you can do. I'm not recommending a cowboy approach, you MUST be able to back up what you're promising in the time promised and to the required standard.

    I'm only talking about adding a related skill to a skills set already in development. I wouldn't say I could do heart surgery.......

    When I was an environmental management consultant, I used to say yes anytime anyone asked me if I could do something whether I could or not and then quickly learned how to do it to an acceptable standard, and that's the important bit, you have to give a professional service. If you can't blag then back it up, don't blag.

    It's about confidence in your abilities and the way you present yourself to clients.
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    SEO is very big field. First y have to get some basic idea. You can get it from net. Better refer some site or forums then start on it to work

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    SEO is not just getting #1 on the search engines. I would say it really depends what your clients want you to do, what you know, and how fast you can grasp things and effectively bring them to use for your clients project.
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    Search Engine Optimization (SEO) is more than just listing your site with Google, MSN, etc. You have to find a balance between giving your readers great content and providing enough keywords to let the search engines know what your site is about.....
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    Most importantly, don't overpromise, especially don't promise to get your client to the first page of Google.

    Learn the basics of tweaking the site and get as many quality links to the site as you can without building links too quickly. Read, read, read and read more. Learn what the difference is between onpage factors and offpage factors. Learn what can get you banned and don't do that.

    Keep trying, you'll get it.

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    SEO can be learned and there is no better way to learn it but from firsthand experience. Be wary though as this would be your first time at it. Gather a lot of resources before even starting it with you client's site - research, comprehension, application, and analysis. Best of luck
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    Even though SEO looks very easy, it is hard to reach the goals. I recommend not to offer SEO services unless you are sure about your expertise.

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    find serf sites, and learn how they do, besides I think backlink is very important

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    Quote Originally Posted by qcyzjg View Post
    find serf sites, and learn how they do, besides I think backlink is very important
    Off Topic:

    Serfs are allowed sites? They'll want the vote next, and then where will we be?


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