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    This is an article discussion thread for discussing the SitePoint article, "Secret Benefits of Accessibility Part 1: Increased Usability"

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    There wasn't actually that much here that I didn't already know and I'm wouldn't say that I'm that clued up either. I think the main thing is that it seems to replicate much that is written elsewhere on the web about usablity. It might be a good idea to tackle these kinds of common issues from a fresh perspective, such as seeing it through the eye of users with visual, aural, and motor problems looking at a number of different websites that reflect modern design.

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    For #2 Descriptive Form Labels, a handy addition to using the 'label for' tag is the addition of:

    label {cursor: hand;}

    in your style sheet. That way, the extra clickable area is more apparent to the user...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scout141
    For #2 Descriptive Form Labels, a handy addition to using the 'label for' tag is the addition of:

    label {cursor: hand;}

    in your style sheet. That way, the extra clickable area is more apparent to the user...
    I find that can be confusing, as it then resembles a link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scout141
    For #2 Descriptive Form Labels, a handy addition to using the 'label for' tag is the addition of:

    label {cursor: hand;}

    in your style sheet. That way, the extra clickable area is more apparent to the user...
    Yeah, if you only want it to work in IE. Otherwise, use "cursor: pointer;"

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    Doh! Wasn't aware it didn't work outside of IE. Thanks for the tip! . Ya learn something new everyday.

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    Well, I found that the clicking of the text does not work in IE very well when applied to radio options. A label tag must be wrapped around the text and the associated radio button for each radio button. The results work in Firefox/Opera/etc., but not in IE. Almost as if it only applies the selection to the last instance of the named object. Good ol' IE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebCudgel
    Well, I found that the clicking of the text does not work in IE very well when applied to radio options. A label tag must be wrapped around the text and the associated radio button for each radio button. The results work in Firefox/Opera/etc., but not in IE. Almost as if it only applies the selection to the last instance of the named object. Good ol' IE.
    never had any problems with it, when done properly, without the need to wrap it around the radio button. just make sure all radio buttons that are mutually exclusive have the same NAME attribute, but different ID that is then targetted by the FOR attribute of the relevant LABEL.
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    That was EXACTLY what I was hoping to find out... yup.. works just fine. Thanks a bunch, redux

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    ANOTHER great article by Trent.

    Thank you for breaking it down, Barney-style!

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    Ermmmm, about "unanounced pop-ups:"

    The place you write for, SitePoint.com is an annoying offender, constantly throwing advertising pop-ups. This is a smart, savvy place. Why do they still abuse a practice that's well known to be annoying and non profitable.

    I'm taking SitePoint out of my RSS aggregator because it doesn't yet have pop-up blocking. WHY do we have to add baggage to our client tools to overcome the annoying behavior of web sites? SitePoint needs to have its pop-up beahvior castrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Easton
    The place you write for, SitePoint.com is an annoying offender, constantly throwing advertising pop-ups.
    That's a rather liberal use of the word "constantly" there. As far as I can see, they have one pop-up. I'm not a fan of it, but let's not exaggerate.
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    Accesibility actually begins with accurate site description and title tags. Too many sites make promises they can't keep. Misleading descriptors won't lead to sales or improve your site's PR. Nice piece, Trent. Several new points on accessibility. Thanks,
    Paul Sterling

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    good article, very true.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................


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