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    Could links from my portfolio page hurt my rankings?

    I'm a website designer primarily and I have a site with a portfolio page that has multiple outbound links to sites that are unrelated to the content of my site.

    I know these links can't hurt my clients but could they be hurting me? Would it be better to have a portfolio page that has a link to a full page for each site I want to showcase and the outbound link on there, rather than all the direct links off one page?

    Or.. are Google smart enough to figure out what's going on? I doubt that would be the case though otherwise link farms would have a way to disguise their activities.

    The PR of the site and the page is what it should be, the clients aren't expecting help from the links, is there anything to be concerned about here?
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    It's not something that I'd personally worry about too much. If you're really concerned though then you could always "nofollow" these links.

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    I don't think it will affect your site in any bad way, link farms are punished because they link to all kind of viagra and ***** enlargement sites, i really doubt if any of your work can be placed in that type of sites.

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    no, it wont affect your ranking but just take care that no more than 100 links on that single page.
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    More then 100 links on a single page won't directly hurt your rankings wither. Google will just counting/following them at approximately that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure View Post
    The PR of the site and the page is what it should be, the clients aren't expecting help from the links, is there anything to be concerned about here?
    If the content is unrelated than yes you will get docked, you should add rel="nofollow" to all your outbound links.

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    I would use no follow so either way it has no effect on site

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    Another thing about this is that these links are reciprocal because each site I build has a link back to my own site on every page, in the footer.

    Could the fact that I have multiple reciprocal links to context unrelated sites be hurting me? Seems like it must be.

    I'm going to add nofollow asap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure View Post
    Another thing about this is that these links are reciprocal because each site I build has a link back to my own site on every page, in the footer.

    Could the fact that I have multiple reciprocal links to context unrelated sites be hurting me? Seems like it must be.

    I'm going to add nofollow asap.
    Yes, it will hurt you if they are reciprocal links.

    Also, you can use redirect instead of nofollow if you want. Just simply make a .php file and put this into the file

    HTML Code:
       1. <?php
       2. header( 'Location: http://www.domain.com' ) ;
       3. ?>
    Of cource you have to edit the domain part. Then save the file like go.php. Than link to www.site.com/go.php. You can do that for each outbound url and you wont loose any rankings at all.


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    The reciprocal links won't hurt you. They're just have no value to you. I'd say add nofollow to them and be done with it. It won't harm anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee View Post
    The reciprocal links won't hurt you. They're just have no value to you. I'd say add nofollow to them and be done with it. It won't harm anything.
    But Cutts himself said that excessive reciprocal links can hurt you. Since I don't have a number I may have to err on the side of caution. The fact that the sites are all unrelated to webdesign can't be helping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waraas View Post
    Yes, it will hurt you if they are reciprocal links.

    Also, you can use redirect instead of nofollow if you want. Just simply make a .php file and put this into the file

    HTML Code:
       1. <?php
       2. header( 'Location: http://www.domain.com' ) ;
       3. ?>
    Of cource you have to edit the domain part. Then save the file like go.php. Than link to www.site.com/go.php. You can do that for each outbound url and you wont loose any rankings at all.

    Thanks Waraas, I'll have a play with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure View Post
    But Cutts himself said that excessive reciprocal links can hurt you. Since I don't have a number I may have to err on the side of caution. The fact that the sites are all unrelated to webdesign can't be helping.

    If you get to the point where you have so many clients with links back you won't care what Google does anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure View Post
    Thanks Waraas, I'll have a play with that.
    nofollow is a better idea. Not only less work and code but then you don't have to worry about blocking the redirect script which is much more convoluted then nofollowing your links in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee View Post
    If you get to the point where you have so many clients with links back you won't care what Google does anymore.
    I don't care that much now, I've never done any SEO on my own site, the webdesign niche is too competitive and it wasn't worth it till now.

    However, if I want to offer SEO as a service I may have to start caring.

    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee View Post
    nofollow is a better idea. Not only less work and code but then you don't have to worry about blocking the redirect script which is much more convoluted then nofollowing your links in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure View Post
    I don't care that much now, I've never done any SEO on my own site, the webdesign niche is too competitive and it wasn't worth it till now.
    We're in the same boat but we will never even consider targeting it in search. We feel it isn't worth the time and effort especially when there are so many other cost effective ways to get clients.

    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure View Post
    However, if I want to offer SEO as a service I may have to start caring.
    That's one of the many reasons why I don't offer SEO services. A small one, but one nonetheless.

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    IT seems that Google will still follow a link with rel="nofollow" and that the nofolllow command doesn't affect the PR of the page targeted by the link.

    So, if I don't want Google to follow the links at all, I'm better off using nofollow in the metatags right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure View Post
    IT seems that Google will still follow a link with rel="nofollow" and that the nofolllow command doesn't affect the PR of the page targeted by the link.

    So, if I don't want Google to follow the links at all, I'm better off using nofollow in the metatags right?
    Google uses rel="nofollow" and won't follow the links so you don't need to do anymore in this case than adding the rel="nofollow" to the anchors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csswiz View Post
    Google uses rel="nofollow" and won't follow the links so you don't need to do anymore in this case than adding the rel="nofollow" to the anchors.
    This is from the wiki entry for rel=nofollow -

    "Google takes "nofollow" literally and does not "follow" the link at all. That is supposedly their official statement, but experiments conducted by SEOs show conflicting results. They show instead that Google does follow the link, but does not index the linked-to page, unless it was in Google's index already for other reasons (such as other, non-nofollow links that point to the page).[8] Links with "nofollow" are included in the backlinks reporting data at Google's Webmaster Central.[9]"

    To be on the safe side, I'm thinking I should use nofollow in the meta tags, don't you think?
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    Don't believe everything you read on wikipedia

    Google themselves have stated that nofollow means that the link won't be followed and will be treated as normal text as apposed to a link and therefore no PR will be passed and the pages will not be indexed based on the nofollow alone.

    As that's Google's stance, I'm personally happy to put a nofollow on any links I don't want followed and then leave it at that.

    Nofollow in the metatags should do the same job as nofollow on the links but will treat the page as a whole and will therefore not pass any PR back to internal pages so I think you're more likely to do damage than good.

    It's upto you obviously but I think you're pretty safe using nofollow in the way that Google advise.

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    That's old news. At first, when it wasn't fully implemented, they seemed to follow some links. They definitely don't follow them anymore.

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    Ok, thanks guys.
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