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    Question Design vs Develop ...

    Another question: I sometimes see the terms web designer and web developer used interchangeably but there is a difference isn't there?

    Isn't Web Development mostly making certain everything (or at least, most things) are there, while a designer is more concerned with making what is there look good?

    Or are they the same thing, i.e. - just semantics.

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    From an unprofessional opinion, web development to me always included programming, marketing, SEO, whereas the design was limited the the graphical client interface.

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    Some people use them interchangeably (just semantics) and everyone probably has their own definition, but in my opinion, a web designer is someone that does the graphical side of things (making things look good) and a developer does the coding and scripting to make it all work.

    Lots of developers and also designers, but not so many designers are developers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentcollision View Post
    From an unprofessional opinion, web development to me always included programming, marketing, SEO, whereas the design was limited the the graphical client interface.
    I disagree. I don't consider marketing and SEO to be part of a web developer's job.

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    Yes I agree with you. web developer can't do marketing and SEO thingy.

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    Actually they can, and some do. Not all of them are capable of doing it properly though. Heck, if you're a freelancer, about 80% of what you're going to be doing (regardless of whether you fancy yourself a designer or a developer) will be marketing - afterall, where are those clients going to come from?

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    Agreed - they certainly can. If we're talking semantics though, I wouldn't generally group those skills into the 'web developer' definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAWK View Post
    Some people use them interchangeably (just semantics) and everyone probably has their own definition, but in my opinion, a web designer is someone that does the graphical side of things (making things look good) and a developer does the coding and scripting to make it all work.

    Lots of developers and also designers, but not so many designers are developers.
    Agreed. IMHO a designer doesn't need to have any programming knowledge and a developer doesn't have to be able to cook up pretty pictures.

    Of course, a designer who knows about what can and can't be done programmatically (e.g. considering certain CSS constraints when designing) and a developer who has an eye for graphical detail make much better developers/designers.

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    web designer does css, photoshop work ,etc
    web developer does php,asp,jsp,mysql work ,etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheap freelancer
    web designer does css, photoshop work ,etc
    web developer does php,asp,jsp,mysql work ,etc.
    hahaha... I have a yet another different definition...


    Web Designer: A graphic designer who designs websites

    Web Developer: A person who takes the Web Designer's designs and converts them into webpages (HTML + CSS)

    Web Programmer: A person who takes the Web Developer's web-pages and codes them (.NET, PHP, database work, etc.)

    Web Master: The person who over-sees the finished website (deals with clients, over-sees day-to-day updates, etc.) also liaising with the website hosts and basically gluing everyone else together... a manager




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    Where I work we also have (had)...


    Copywriter: Person who writes all of the website's initial "copy" (textual content)

    SEO + Submissions: Person who researches key-words and key-phrases (which are advised to the Copywriter and the Web Master) and also handles link-building

    Bulk Mailer: Person who does mail outs of promotions and newsletters to the website's customers, also keeping track of monthly customer response




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    ore... One more... My last job was at a corporate web-design company. Our clients would have a...


    Web Administrator: A person on the client's end who administers the finished website (deals with customers, deals with day-to-day updates, basic promoting, etc.) with limited back-end access to the website




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