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    Domain: Title or Title:Domain

    This may have come up before but I couldn't find anything on it. I was just browsing and began to wonder what's the preference for the title of web pages? Is it
    SitePoint: Page Title
    or is it
    Page Title - SitePoint?

    And obviously the dividers can change, I've seen a lot of text dividers between domain and content, '-', '>', '', and other tricky stuff. But what about the relationship of domain to title? Does this affect SEO ranking at all? Does it affect user expereince? I've always done Domain - Title personally but now I'm not so sure. For example if I minimize a javascript tutorial into my start bar and then try to find it again, a page that's "MyDomain - JS Tutorial" will show up as "MyDomain..." and I won't know what it is, whereas the reverse will show up as "JS Tutorial...". It puts the content first over the provider.

    Even this site has mixed ranges on it. The main site is Sitepoint: Page Title, the forums are ForumTitle: Sitepoint, and some pages don't even have SitePoint in them at all, just the title of the article / blog.
    Last edited by DelvarWorld; Nov 29, 2007 at 00:06.

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    Putting the page title first makes it MUCH more usable. Think about what you see in your tabs or task bar...

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    Sarah's right. Not only that, but the page title often has keywords that site owners want the search engines to pick up on - now imagine if those keywords kept coming up after the site title on each and every page, rather than up front and center?

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    I prefer sticking the the company name and a few keywords. When I'm out searching, I rarely even look at the page title displayed in the browser. I think most people do something like : ABC Company - Contact Us

    Where as, from a SEO approach it would seem more logical to be a little more descriptive such as :

    ABC Company - Contact Us About Our Accounting Services

    or

    Contact ABC Company About Our Accounting Services

    Or, if the company is targeting a local market, such as the surrounding city or counties something like :

    Contact Us About Accounting Services in Baker County, State
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmescreek View Post
    I prefer sticking the the company name and a few keywords.
    If you do that, when you have several tabs open on the same site all you see is the name. Not helpful.

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    I'm assuming your not talking about actual browser tabs. Anyways, it doesn't matter, on sites I design I typicaly keep the nav tab hilighted and put in a very distinct page header in the content section like "ABOUT OUR SERVICES"

    I think most people, when navigating a site, tend to focus on the header in the content section and the navtabs, not the title bar in the top of the browser.
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    I am talking about the actual browser tabs and taskbar windows. They display the site title. If you begin every title with the site name that is all that you see.

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    I'm a little bit torn on this one. I agree with all the points made but equally is it not difficult for a user if they've bookmarked a page and know what the company or site was but all they can see is the title of the page?

    If the company or sitename is quite short then I'd be tempted to go against the consensus here so that the company name was in view but you'd also be able to see the first few words of the page.

    I think it also depends on the identity of the site. If someone is searching for a news article and instantly sees the name BBC followed by the article title in Google then there's that instant brand recognition that could be missed if BBC is hanging off the end.

    Like I've said though, I don't think either solution is perfect so I would always tend to weigh up the pros and cons of each method on a project by project basis.

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    Yeah but Dave, how many of us get to work on CNN.com or the BBC Online on a daily basis?

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    It's not just tabs, its bookmarks and favourites as well that benefit from title first - sitename second...

    Then there's SEO - If the title is longish, then it might get truncated if the sitename precedes it.

    On index pages I always have the sitename before any keywords however.

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    BBC was just an example but it would be equally applicable if someone had bookmarked a page from a local firm.

    I'm just thinking about the brand recognition aspect as I don't think it's as straight forward as saying page title should always come first.

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    I know, Dave. Hence the smiley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriocomic View Post
    On index pages I always have the sitename before any keywords however.
    I agree - on index pages site name first, rest of pages page title first. Much better for seo and usability.

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    Title : Domain

    Get those keywords in front!

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    CSS wiz also has a point though. Though normally I'd go for title, then domain.

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    Well its very important to get as many kw links to your site. I have over 375 links for florida mortgage company and my site is #1.

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    For SEO purposes, the title element is the heaviest weighted of all. Even for index pages, if your domain or business name isn't descriptive of your keywords, you should place your main targeting keywords before your title.

    Ex: Cross Country Skis, Snowmobiles & Downhill Skis: Winter Wonderland.tld

    In this instance, if you put the business (or domain name) first, you'll end up after the dozens of renditions of the song "Winter Wonderland" and nowhere near where your market can find you.
    Linda Jenkinson
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    Do the 2 make any difference on SEO?

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    Yes, since seach engines index Web pages, not Web sites. It's natural that you'll want the page title to come before the site title for this very reason (not to mention the accessibility and usability benefits that Sarah mentioned earlier).


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