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    Quote Originally Posted by logic_earth View Post
    www. is technically a subdomain
    Logic is quite right.

    This is an issue of canonicalization.
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    1) using "www." is well established - however, go by what your vistors might expect/use/type
    2) if domain name is very long, then you can lose 4 characters by losing "www."

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    I prefer www not that i think it really matters much either way.

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    I like to use subdomains. I think they have great potential and have been underutilized.
    But, it annoys me greatly that the general public cannot grasp the concept and insists on prefixing any URL with WWW.

    I try to point someone to clients.mydomain.com and get complains that www.clients.mydomain.com "does not work"
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    Your business philosophy appears to be severely flawed. If you set up a website, discovers that it has a usability error and yet insist on maintaining status quo, then it is not your clients, but you, who doesn't get the idea.

    It doesn't matter if you're 'right' - you can't live off being right, you live off your clients, and you have to adapt your business to that fact.

    Besides, you should be able to set up your server, so that both subdomain.example.com and www.subdomain.example.com works.
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    www is better,check google you will find most sites follow www.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaynet View Post
    www is better,check google you will find most sites follow www.
    As stated many times in this thread, one is not better then the other. More people choose to use www but that is just a personal preference.

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    www jsut looks prettier to me. more symetrical maybe?

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    I like non-www myself, but as C. Ankerstjerne said, many people will simply attach www for an address even if you explicitly provided the address as http://www.example.org (if they have to type it I mean).

    Even IE adds www to a .com domain if you used the Ctrl + Enter shortcut!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee View Post
    As stated many times in this thread, one is not better then the other. More people choose to use www but that is just a personal preference.
    I Googled "google" just found that www.google.com is ranking #1.If you use non-www & do a lot of work with non-www,then you domain.com might got Pr4,but www.domain.com might got pr0,that will be the same to non-www,if you follow www.domain.com.So i just suggest to follow www,just my personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaynet View Post
    I Googled "google" just found that www.google.com is ranking #1.If you use non-www & do a lot of work with non-www,then you domain.com might got Pr4,but www.domain.com might got pr0,that will be the same to non-www,if you follow www.domain.com.So i just suggest to follow www,just my personal opinion.
    It's not just a matter of following www or non-www, it's a matter of FORCING one of them. That's why it's an established practice to re-direct one of them to the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaynet View Post
    I Googled "google" just found that www.google.com is ranking #1.If you use non-www & do a lot of work with non-www,then you domain.com might got Pr4,but www.domain.com might got pr0,that will be the same to non-www,if you follow www.domain.com.So i just suggest to follow www,just my personal opinion.
    PR has to do with pages themselves, not the www itself. The reason why a www might have a higher PR then without the www is because they technically are two separate webpages and one has more links then the other. That's why forcing one over the other with a 301 redirect is how you should handle that situation. You should read the Search Engine Optimization FAQ which covers that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ankerstjerne View Post
    and set up a 301 redirect.
    My ignorance, what is a 301 redirect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poiesis01 View Post
    Well, it doesn't matter, but I prefer www for the root domain and non-www for the subdomain. It's just personal preference.
    i absolutely agree with you-It's just personal preference

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    It absolutely matters that you use just one of the choices or that you make sure that your backlinks are pointing at just one of them.
    It's 530 people, but do you really get it?
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    Some people replying here don't seem to realize we're talking about a SEO issue, not just design preferences.

    http://www.example.com & http://example.com are technically two different domains, and search engines rankings will differ for each one according to their own SERPs & backlinks for each domain. For example, http://wikipedia.org used to have a PR of 9 while http://www.wikipedia.org was having a PR of 10 (or vice versa).

    Since site owners cannot control how people type a URL (with www or without it), a webmaster SHOULD force one of the domains to be dominant by redirecting the other one to it. This is done mostly by adding a couple of lines to a file called .htaccess on Apache servers (I really don't know about other servers), which is called then a 301 redirect.

    Whether choosing the www or non-www form of your domain, this is where it becomes a personal preference, provided that you stick to ONLY one of them as stated by many people here.
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    maybe I do not want to change my everyday life,
    I used to use www,
    and I will...
    oh www
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    Doesn't matter which one you choose, no seo advantage in choosing either one of those. You can either pick one of these and redirect aniother to the chosen one or leave both of them pointing to the same site and google will do the picking for you in their SERPs. You can even use webmaster tool to pick your favourite one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_2007 View Post
    leave both of them pointing to the same site and google will do the picking for you in their SERPs.
    You shouldn't do that, as I've said already this is a canonical issue.

    Leaving both pointing at your site could cause duplicate content issues, problems with your backlinks being divided between the two domains and a general division of your SEO benefits which could all be gained by telling Google which is your preferred domain or just using redirects.
    It's 530 people, but do you really get it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJMcClure View Post
    You shouldn't do that, as I've said already this is a canonical issue.

    Leaving both pointing at your site could cause duplicate content issues, problems with your backlinks being divided between the two domains and a general division of your SEO benefits which could all be gained by telling Google which is your preferred domain or just using redirects.
    Yeah, you are right didn't think of that aspect. Duplicate content is not much of a problem imo, the bigger problem is it will create division of SEO benefits which you cannot control yourself, if you don't create a redirect.

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    With or without www, it's still the same... I guess

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    Actually they're not the same. They're considered to be different links from different locations.

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    Thanks Mr. Dan, but I thought they are the same...

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    They may essentially go to the same page, but they're different ways of getting there - hence the difference.


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