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    Ever get one of those ideas you just have to try?

    Tonight I launched mine... I was getting frustrated with all the spam bots attacking my various sites so I decided to give those silly little spam bots their very own place to call home.

    http://botarchy.com/

    Anyone know what it is that triggers the bots to start coming? Do I have to get links or page rank or??? Do they just start attacking when they eventually find me???

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    bots

    They'll find you soon enough. The question is, are you prepared for the onslaught of lawsuits?

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    Better take the links to your friends' blogs out of there just in case your friends don't want to get spammed as well.
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    Why would I have an onslaught of lawsuits?

    Those aren't my friend's blogs... that's the default blog roll as per a wordpress installation... and how would have them there increase the likelihood that they would get spammed any more than any other link on the internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mittineague View Post
    The question is, are you prepared for the onslaught of lawsuits?
    Hey! I'm going to sue you for allowing me to spam your blog!

    Ummmmmmm ok

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    spam

    What I had in mind was the fact that having a website entails having a certain amount of responsibility. Purposely allowing questionable content to be online would have no defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mittineague View Post
    What I had in mind was the fact that having a website entails having a certain amount of responsibility. Purposely allowing questionable content to be online would have no defense.
    Wow... Just wow... I have to sit here and absorb the fact that you really just said that in a totally serious and honest way.

    I don't think any amount of words could possible communicate to you how I feel about this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaskoda View Post
    and how would have them there increase the likelihood that they would get spammed any more than any other link on the internet?
    The bots will probably crawl the webpage for links before spamming. Guarantees access to similar type of audience, which is desirable from a marketer's point of view. Plus, it's there for the picking.
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    the mashed potatoes were good but it wasn't that kind of party

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mittineague View Post
    What I had in mind was the fact that having a website entails having a certain amount of responsibility. Purposely allowing questionable content to be online would have no defense.
    Ummmmm ok...

    Safe harbour provision comes to mind among a million other defences.

    Personally I think the site is essentially useless but no one is going to sue him over it.

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    safe harbor

    Exactly my point. From wikipedia
    A safe harbor is a provision of a statute or a regulation that reduces or eliminates a party's liability under the law, on the condition that the party performed its actions in good faith. Legislators include safe-harbor provisions to protect legitimate or excusable violations. ... due dilligence
    There is lack of good faith, it is not an excusable violation, and absolutely no diligence.
    In fact it's an intentional lack of diligence. All fine and good as long as there is no copy infringement or obscenity posted I suppose. But if the server is in the US, would you risk it in little bushie's big brother world?
    True, it's more likely the site would just be taken down, but just the same.

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    I'm continuing to read this thread in utter disbelief.

    It's mostly just a curiosity thing. I've battled spam bots to no end. I want to see what they do without resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaskoda View Post
    I'm continuing to read this thread in utter disbelief.
    LOL, join the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tke71709 View Post
    LOL, join the club.
    I'm more of a "free culture" kind of guy...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Culture_movement

    I can make a pretty good argument as to how the policing of the Internet in the early days set the scene for spam to become a problem. But I suppose that's a bit of a tangent to this thread.

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    Well I think the concept is pretty funny, and I'll be checking back to see how its going.

    I especially liked:

    I wanted to call it bothole.com, but that was taken...

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    concept

    A variation of this has been around for a while. And it does serve a purpose. Not only can you see what the SPAM bots post (which you can already do by looking at any number of forums and blogs that don't utilize adequate anti-bot measures), but you can determine the frequency and type of attacks.
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    Neat idea, though I don't get the purpose. If you just let them post, then...they will just post, maybe more often if they find you're not deleting it.

    If I had a say over it, I'd tell the ones who keep pestering me on my blog to come to your site.
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    Here's an example... As bots are crawling the forum looking for a place to post, are they smart enough to look for keywords related to the spam they intend to post? If so, will you see viagra ads all glumped together in one thread???

    I'm curious if any kind of interesting emergent behavior will show up.

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    allowing spam bots

    It would be interesting to study. Maybe you could put together some kind of "SPAM bot posting trends" report.
    I find that the SPAM bots usually try to start new topics in the forum with the most threads, and to make comments on blog posts that come up higher in the SERPs.

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    It took 11 days for the first bots to hit the forum.

    I also made this blog post in hopes that it might get a link or two:

    http://botarchy.com/blog/2007/09/15/...our-interwebs/

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    Another consideration is if you let them run wild, are you not risking overloading your server and webspace? I'd be interested to know if this is an issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by armchaircritic View Post
    Another consideration is if you let them run wild, are you not risking overloading your server and webspace? I'd be interested to know if this is an issue
    The upside is that I have a dedicated machine with alot of disk space and the only thing they can really contribute is text.

    However, if it becomes an issue I'll definitely shut it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armchaircritic View Post
    Another consideration is if you let them run wild, are you not risking overloading your server and webspace? I'd be interested to know if this is an issue
    If that were true every abandoned blog would be killing the internet.

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    lol this is actually a really good idea. im fed up of bots spamming my forms on my website, i just dont know how to implement spam prevention like CAPTCHA on my forms
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    Well, the little doobers continue to attack the forums regularly, but they have yet to tear into the blog.

    A few people dugg the lolspambot image I made:
    http://****.com/security/So_THAT_s_w...bot_looks_like

    But not enough to get anywhere remotely near the front page. Maybe it wasn't THAT funny.... (*I* thought it was funny)

    Anyway, I got a few links here and there in some personal blogs and such.. and I've mentioned in it a couple of places (like here)... MAYBE I'll get enough link exposure to attract those wordpress bots sooner or later.

    EDIT: Oh wow, I never knew you couldn't post links to ****... Huh...


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