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    <C²: web standards /> cybercodeur's Avatar
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    Exclamation Who cares to validate?

    Who bothers with code validation with the W3C?

    It has come to my attention that not many people actually bother with validating their work through the W3C validators.

    How'bout you?
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    I always validate my work when I am ready to put it online.

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    I always get a few errors... nothing special though (ones like margins and things)

    Never do my CSS... as long as it works in IE5 and NS6, it's fine with me

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    I always validate now, both (X)HTML and CSS (though I didn't in the past, naughty me).

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    I always validate, doesn't mean I pay attention to EVERYTHING the validator says but my HTML is usually spot on. Occassionally I get problems with my CSS but I am not an expert at it, although I am getting there!

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    I've found that the best way to get CSS to validate is to actually design external CSS per browser versions and/or by CSS level and have them dispatched on your site through a javascript browser detection. That way, when you validate, you don't offer the validator one big CSS that contains rules from different levels all mixed together. From the moment I've done that , my CSS have been spot on (well most of the time )
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    i would, but im to lazy... plus i know my code is perfect anyway

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    Yeah I tend to, just incase one day Ill get the magical, woohoo, well done!!! Your code couldnt be more perfect, first time round!

    Glen

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    Originally posted by glenplake
    Yeah I tend to, just incase one day Ill get the magical, woohoo, well done!!! Your code couldnt be more perfect, first time round!
    What? You're dreaming of that day too?
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    Originally posted by iTec
    i would, but im to lazy... plus i know my code is perfect anyway
    I checked your code, you don't even use the ALT attribute!

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    Originally posted by cybercodeur
    I've found that the best way to get CSS to validate is to actually design external CSS per browser versions and/or by CSS level and have them dispatched on your site through a javascript browser detection. That way, when you validate, you don't offer the validator one big CSS that contains rules from different levels all mixed together. From the moment I've done that , my CSS have been spot on (well most of the time )
    I do a similar thing, however, mine's done with PHP instead of JavaScript.

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    Originally posted by Aes
    I do a similar thing, however, mine's done with PHP instead of JavaScript.
    Oh I wish I could do it in php too!

    Is it complicated???
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    Hi,

    I always try and make my pages as near as to the standards set by W3C. Infact I've just spent the last hour changing a couple of sites over from HTML 4.01 to XHTML.

    Most of the pages I design pretty much validate, some do, some only have a few errors (mainly margin width etc). Most of these errors are caused by old browser, just because I like the idea of standards doesn't mean I stop users with older browsers from viewing my site.

    I don't tend to validate my CSS as often.

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    The biggest thing for me is compatability. If it looks correct in most or all platforms and browsers, I am happy. A lot of sites are far from perfect with validation, including SitePoint.

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    I never validate.
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    Yea, the system is rigged, i tell you, rigged!

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    Hmmm tough one...I would say no...I leave my code the way it is. I have done so for a few public sites but for anything application based I program for the browser of the company.
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    basically only if its required, eg Xhtml compliant, suaully check through html tidy anyway, but can't also be perfect although a few of mine are
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    i've been getting a little psychotic about it lately. I even wrote a server-side browser check on my own site that serves netscape and gecko up with the old 4.01 doctype, and everyone else with the xhtml one.

    but then again, i do have some issues. my mother didn't love me, my shoes are too tight, etc.

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    I think it is important to validate, although many times it can be almost impossible.

    I urge you all to do a little bit on every site and soon you will get so used to what is valid and what isn't that when you run your site through a checker it will not need any ammends.

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    Originally posted by cybercodeur

    Oh I wish I could do it in php too!

    Is it complicated???
    click here

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    Hey! Thanks!!!
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    I validate too (but would you expect different from me? ;-)! To me, it's important to get my site working with the standards because I don't want to have to redesign a site because it stopped working -- that's my worst nightmare. And, besides, you get a nifty little badge to go along with it, too. :-D

    ~~Ian

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    You don't even have a site you ninny!

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    Originally posted by Nicky
    You don't even have a site you ninny!
    That's like salt in a wound, Nicky. :-( <--see I'm using a sad smiley so you should all pity me now...

    True I don't a personal site, but I have done other work, you know. Anyway, I'm working on my very own site ... It's like a few other projects I have -- I'm working on it! ;-)

    ~~Ninny


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