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    I just installed it on XP and all the writing is missing from the user interface (e.g. no writing on Yes/No buttons) and there is no address bar.
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    Downloading now.
    Can't wait to try it out.
    I'm assuming that the rendering engine is the same as on Mac, right?
    And so I got lost in code...completely asphyxiated by it...

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    Just installed on Windows Vista Business without issues.

    They have a nice website.
    I don't really like the browser though. (from first looks).
    Will definitely come in handy for testing purposes.
    And so I got lost in code...completely asphyxiated by it...

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    Awesome Downloading now, will be testing ASAP

    This is great news!

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    Downloaded and tested and it seems to work great... I don"t even mind the font rendering on my monitor :-)

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    The back action when pressing backspace doesn't work, that's a big down for my browsing habbits..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia View Post
    Yes Safari is doing its own font smoothing, but then again IE7 does as well...
    My understanding is that IE7 uses the built in XP font rendering, but over rides the default non-cleartype rendering mode. Safari seems to be using it's own font rendering entirely which is a little odd, although extremely useful as it's nice to be able to see exactly what your site will look like on a Mac.

    PS: It works great And I quite like the font rendering, I find it very easy on the eyes.

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    Just another browser to test on, thatīs not good news, as we didnīt have enough problems already getting sites working on everything.

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    I downloaded Safari last night, try it from morning to this afternoon and decide it's not a best browser for me.

    Why so?

    Because this Safari doesn't cache the page, whenever I hit "back" button it will reload the page instead of read from cache. That's the most fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandal View Post
    Because this Safari doesn't cache the page, whenever I hit "back" button it will reload the page instead of read from cache. That's the most fault.
    Just tested this myself, watching the access log, and Safari caching seems to be working just fine. Upon revisiting a page I'd already been to, no images or scripts were downloaded again, it was served from cache.

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    installed on vmware/XP with no issues, will be nice for testing.. I cant see many win32 users would turn to it as a primary browser though so don't expect it to eat up the IE/FF stats , but a great boon for developers.

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    It's good, no Firefox beater but it's the second best browser I've seen imo.

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    Off Topic:

    Just remembered I needed to update the user agent patterns at a couple sites to recognize Safari 3.0 users... blanket Safari patterns have never had to match Windows in the UA string before!

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    Awesome, now I can see for myself how Safari breaks IR CSS on seemingly random occasions, instead of having to hear from my clients

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    Holy mother of CSS! This is the buggyest beta I've ever seen. They should've called it a pre-alpha

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    It works... Great... Now I don't have to run my VM anymore to wait for 5 minutes to start Safari.
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    I hope they release it soon
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    Cleartype Off, XP
    The Safari text looks darker and fuzzier than IE7 or FF. I certainly prefer the text rendering in IE7 to that of FF which has more jaggies with cleartype off, but I prefer the FF text to Safari as the fuzziness is a bit distracting .

    Cleartype On
    Text in IE7 and FF look about the same now, but IE7 still has a slightly sharper display which I still prefer, while text in Safari is still fuzzy.


    Safari okay so far, although having to grab the bottom right corner to re-size the window is annoying compared to grabbing any edge. Some text is smaller in FF and Safari compared to IE7. But sizes in FF and Safari are similar, except bold which is wider in Safari than FF, and not as attractive.

    Form buttons are obviously Mac, as is the scrollbar.

    Safari does look odd compared to other Windows apps. That's a familiarity thing of course.

    EDIT: I've tried turning the smoothing in Preferences from Medium (Best for Flat Panel) to Light and it's better but text is still a bit fuzzy, and bold is still double bold as someone else described it.

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    Pics or it didn't happen.
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    One more install with no luck. All of the fonts are missing.
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    The Arial font looks terrible. Is this normal for this browser?

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    Because this Safari doesn't cache the page, whenever I hit "back" button it will reload the page instead of read from cache. That's the most fault.
    People were fine with Firefox having that same behaviour for a long time before they implemented it, and then they copied it from Opera. And I highly doubt that's the most fault.

    I am not really sure what Apple is gaining from putting Safari on Windows, except maybe taking a stab at Microsoft or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wii View Post
    Just another browser to test on, thatīs not good news, as we didnīt have enough problems already getting sites working on everything.
    You have needed to test your site on Safari for quite some time now. Safari has been the third most popular web browser over all for a long time now and the most popular browser on Macs. Having a Windows version just means we can finally test our sites on Safari without buying a Mac, which is wonderful.

    By the way, you wouldn't have problems getting your sites to work on different browsers if you coded and validated your sites against W3C HTML4.01 Strict and CSS2 specifications. You also shouldn't use MSIE as your primary development browser as it frequently allows you to introduce coding errors that then cause you cross browser problems later. Using Firefox as your primary testing browser and either Safari or Opera as your secondary testing browser will ensure you developer code with fewer errors. Validating to W3C specifications will help eliminate remaining errors and doing a final check on MSIE will allow you to resolve stupid MSIE rendering issues.
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    Hmm, well I'm using it to post on SitePoint now.

    The only thing which I've noticed so far is that our Microsoft Sharepoint server crashes Safari 3 (well, it bearly works in firefox and opera anyway... so it's probably just Microsoft's fault)

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    I know it's a beta but

    • try clicking the address book icon -- Safari goes bye bye.
    • try adding a bookmark -- Safari goes bye bye.
    • try viewing the bookmarks -- Safari goes bye bye.
    • try moving the tabs for a while -- Safari goes bye bye.
    • try clicking the plus button (+) -- Safari goes bye bye.
    • try to show your browsing history -- Safari goes bye bye.


    Not to mention the rendering issues and frequent messages saying "Safari is missing important resources and should be reinstalled." It's way too early for using it daily imho. The Firefox beta's have been quite stable and I have not had much problems with the betas coming from Opera either, the Safari beta however, it needs a lot of work.
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