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    Who among here believes in psychic, astrology or interested with it.

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    It's mostly just psychology used to make money some way (e.g. giving you money, reading a paper more often etc.) under the guise of being magical (e.g. astrology, tarot reading, psychic stuff etc.).

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    I don't, but I do believe in question marks. However, I don't believe Dr Evil's dad invented it (and I don't think Dr Evil does either).

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    p t barnum was right
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    Quote Originally Posted by r937 View Post
    p t barnum was right
    Oooh yeah.
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    people has their own beliefs.. the important is to respects oneself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francesca_l0uise View Post
    people has their own beliefs.. the important is to respects oneself.
    Yes, but from a non-believer's point of view, I see it literally as what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Datura
    I know what you're thinking and yes it's true that a lot of people use belief in the paranormal to swindle others out of their cash. Hell sometimes they even use it to start wars, or in Trinidad -- to win votes!!



    But remember what I told you about the hundred white sheep. Seeing just one black sheep can prove you wrong, but no matter how many white ones you see you cannot scientifically say "All sheep are white".

    This applies here too. It cannot be scientifically proven, but it cannot be scientifically dis-proven either.

    I'm going to stay on the fence with this one.

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    I do. I've done a lot of work with such things and have seen it work.
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    actually, i was wrong, p t barnum never said what people think he said

    see http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html
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    Astrology...hmm.. I believe in it but for me that comes as a part of our tradition and culture. You know every child born in our relig: has his horoscope written by an astrologer which is spot on almost in all cases....well atleast in my case. All they need is your birth date and time.
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    In my post...I linked it to my religion..honestly I don't want to get a discussion started on this.
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    electroscan, I totally agreew with you. I don't know what you're religion is, but I've also had astrological charts done and they've been extremely accurate.

    But it's all in if one chooses to acknowledge it or not. If one refuses to believe in it then no amount of evidence or experience would sway one to believe in it. Such has been my experience.
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    I don't believe in any of this stuff BUT (and that's a big butt):
    1) I find it interesting that many people do fit their astrological sign. Aquarius fits me to a "T".
    2) Many years ago, a guy told me about some lady who was a psychic and would tell things about me if I would write her a letter along with $20. He said I can call her to make sure it's OK but to NOT drop by her house. So I called her on the phone and, yes, it was a totally weird experience. I sent her a letter with five questions on it. Over a period of time I wrote her three times asking fairly specific questions.

    The only thing I remember from all that is, she correctly identified who I was going to marry, when I would marry, what job I would have, how well off I would be throughout my life, and a couple of others I forgot right now.

    1) She said I would marry a girl who's first name began with a 'D' and wore white. My wife's first name begins with a D and she wore a medical lab coat when I met her two years later.
    2) She said I would marry later than most (then) but before I was 30. I married at 28.
    3) She said I would have my own successful business which I did 10 years later.
    4) She said I wouldn't be rich but I would always be very well off. At the time I had a dead end job not making much money and had no prospects of going anywhere. Some say I'm rich but her description is probably more accurate.

    Because so many of these things didn't happen until several years later, I lost track of her. Wish I didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhowarddrfine View Post
    I don't believe in any of this stuff BUT (and that's a big butt):
    1) I find it interesting that many people do fit their astrological sign. Aquarius fits me to a "T".
    It happens the same to me... my sign describes me to the core!

    Anyway, I do not believe in those things although they have always interested me. Still (Datura, probably you will not like this so don't read ) there is so much we need to learn, about ourselves, about nature, about so many things... that I can't simply say that it is just simply nonsense.

    My story? Well, I did some palm reading just as a game, because I thought it was fun. Never believed in those things, and I still don't but... I stopped doing it. I was very accurate, specially when it was about things that were not nice. Deadly accurate. Literally.

    I stopped it because I decided that I didn't know who was going to die next.

    Now, about psychokinesis and Auras and that kind of thing... well, the human body does release enery, so I do think that we have an aura, which is the amount of heat we release. I accept the possibility that the amount of energy you release may vary depeding on your mood, and things like that, and therefore you may be able to try to guess who is a good person or not)

    If psychokinesis exists (something I am not sure of), I would think that it is because someone is able to control the amount of energy (s)he releases, either consciosly or not, in the such a way that he may affect the forces around and move objects.

    After all, they say that we only use a 10% of our brain... so who knows if the brain can be smart enough to have such a control?

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    Here's what I honestly believe...

    I think we do have a sixth sense that's under-developed. No, I'm not talking about any para-normal stuff.

    I think we're supposed to have that same sense to detect electrical signals that some other animals have... but I think for most of us it's under-developed.

    You know that there are fish like the Elephant Nose and Electric Eels that use their electric organs to sort of echo-locate food buried in the sand or otherwise hidden??

    You know that pit snakes and dogs are believed to have the ability to detect the electricity of muscle contractions of nearby animals ??

    I think we have some lingering ability to do this but it's not very sharp so we interpret it as "a weird feeling in the gut".

    Sort of like when you're walking down the street and you sometimes feel a vibe that someone is behind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun(OfTheDead) View Post
    Here's what I honestly believe...

    I think we do have a sixth sense that's under-developed. No, I'm not talking about any para-normal stuff.

    I think we're supposed to have that same sense to detect electrical signals that some other animals have... but I think for most of us it's under-developed.

    You know that there are fish like the Elephant Nose and Electric Eels that use their electric organs to sort of echo-locate food buried in the sand or otherwise hidden??

    You know that pit snakes and dogs are believed to have the ability to detect the electricity of muscle contractions of nearby animals ??

    I think we have some lingering ability to do this but it's not very sharp so we interpret it as "a weird feeling in the gut".

    Sort of like when you're walking down the street and you sometimes feel a vibe that someone is behind you.
    I know a few people who claim that they have experienced something like this...namely that they've started singing, and then walked into someone elses room only to find that song on the radio. I think there could be 3 explanations:
    1) Coincidence
    2) Hearing it at a low level subconsciously
    3) My favourite theory...we subconsciously learn to associate radiowaves that we pick up with certain songs, and this triggers us to start singing them.

    Probably 1 but I'd love it to be 3!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigalreturns
    I know a few people who claim that they have experienced something like this...namely that they've started singing, and then walked into someone elses room only to find that song on the radio. I think there could be 3 explanations:
    1) Coincidence
    2) Hearing it at a low level subconsciously
    3) My favourite theory...we subconsciously learn to associate radiowaves that we pick up with certain songs, and this triggers us to start singing them.

    Probably 1 but I'd love it to be 3!
    What ??

    No no no... that's not what I meant at all.

    Okay okay... another example.

    Sharks have a sixth sense. No nothing paranromal. They have little holes called electroreceptors around the sides of their heads.

    So do platypi.

    Anyways... my hair-brained theory is that seeing that every living thing on the planet evolved from similar roots, then perhaps we have some lingering electroreption ability. The same way that whales have those lingering finger bones in their flippers.

    It's hard to descibe this without sounding like some looney person. I can just imagine Datura reading this and shaking her head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigalreturns View Post
    I know a few people who claim that they have experienced something like this...namely that they've started singing, and then walked into someone elses room only to find that song on the radio. I think there could be 3 explanations:
    1) Coincidence
    2) Hearing it at a low level subconsciously
    3) My favourite theory...we subconsciously learn to associate radiowaves that we pick up with certain songs, and this triggers us to start singing them.

    Probably 1 but I'd love it to be 3!
    Bigal,
    You bring up an important point. An observation I have made about people and psychology. Let me relate a simple illustration:
    I often play cards with others. From time to time I will:
    a. place my hand on the top of the face down deck
    b. announce a card at random; with extreme confidence
    c. draw the top card

    Statistically, I am right about 1 out of 52 times. But, if luck is in my favor, I have just performed a miracle! And THAT IS WHAT IS REMEMBERED. The odds of that card appearing are always the same. We place significance to it based on the circumstances.
    Another example to which many of you can probably relate. Just yesterday one of the lotteries in Florida came out as Zero, Zero, Zero, Zero. My wife made a comment like, "Wow that is amazing". No it is not. It is EXACTLY as amazing as any other combination of four digits. But we place a significance to four of the same (maybe more to four zeroes)!
    Sadly, these (so called) Psychics on television use simple magician's tricks (of this I speak with authority and from experience) to fool people who are ready to believe in the first place.
    Search YouTube for "Derron Brown" (particularly look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evZmpsl3jI0). You will see some great examples of this.
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    "... we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event.
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    To date, no one has ever passed the preliminary tests."
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    Quote Originally Posted by samsm View Post
    http://www.randi.org/research/index.html
    "... we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event.
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    To date, no one has ever passed the preliminary tests."
    And I will introduce them to Sylvia Browne. Now, where's my money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Schulz View Post
    And I will introduce them to Sylvia Browne. Now, where's my money?
    http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/browne.html

    "Sylvia Browne would like people to believe she has the psychic ability to communicate with the dead and to diagnose their ailments. She has broken three promises made on international television to take the JREF One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge. More than two years have passed since her first promise."
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    Quote Originally Posted by samsm View Post
    http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/browne.html

    "Sylvia Browne would like people to believe she has the psychic ability to communicate with the dead and to diagnose their ailments. She has broken three promises made on international television to take the JREF One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge. More than two years have passed since her first promise."
    Of course. Those kinds of things get always just glossed over by the gullible
    Why would it be any different with her or any other of her ilk? Past - Present - Future.
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    Yes, I can say I do believe in paranormal, psychics ect - people have to respect other peoples beliefs.

    Now on the other hand, 'magic' I do not believe in, the main reason being is because nobody has ever done a magic trick on me before, or have I seen one. Well, I've seen them pennys ones where you get from the local paper shop!


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