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    A future student in trouble

    Hey guys,

    The majority of kids my age get their software illegally, but I'm not for that whole thing. The problem is to get started in the field I need to buy software that costs a ridiculous amount of money for somebody my age. CS3 costs around $600 per product. Are there any suggestions out there for landing a deal? I really don't know how to afford this. Seems pretty hopeless.

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    http://www.gimp.org (The GIMP - open source Photoshop equivilent)
    http://www.nvu.com (NVU - open source Dreamweaver equivilent)
    http://www.openoffice.org (OpenOffice - open source Microsoft Office equivilent)

    All free and legal.

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    Thanks for the links!
    What are the student discounts like for adobe?

    I found a link...but I don't quite understand it. If youre a student the masters collection can go for $499?

    http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/open...html#footnote1

    Not sure how this works...can someone explain it to me?

    edit: I plan on going to a community college part time for a year (starting this summer) then a university...when i checked Apple's student discount section my school (community college) didn't come up....Does anybody know if part time students can qualify for this stuff?

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    I don't know. You're going to want to ask at your school.

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    I double checked and the apple store offers an educational discount for CS3 that is very affordable. At the community college I will probably just study heavy into the fine arts and on the side study CSS/programing. Come next summer, when I have my acceptance letter to the university, I'll get CS3 and continue my studies in graphic design.

    It's a shame, but hey, gotta do what you gotta do.

    Need a good year to freshen up on code/fine arts anyway.
    Last edited by theindustry; Apr 30, 2007 at 21:29.

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    Just keep in mind the fact that you can't use student editions for commercial work, and you won't be eligible for discounts if you decide to upgrade.

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    Most Adobe products are 50% off for students. Buying multiple products would be more expensive than buying the suite. Check with your local school bookstore, but the Web Premium suite costs $1600 retail, so that should be $800 (maybe less?) for Educational.

    It includes

    Photoshop CS3 Extended
    Illustrator CS3
    Dreamweaver CS3
    Flash CS3 Professional
    Fireworks CS3
    Contribute CS3
    Acrobat 8 Professional
    Bridge CS3
    Version Cue CS3
    Device Central CS3
    Adobe Stock Photos


    DO NOT GO IN FOR CRACKED SOFTWARE. If you get found out, the legal guardian gets the jailtime and multi thousand dollar fine. Remember. This software is not a NEED. It is a WANT. Nothing entitles anyone to the software. All software comes down in price sooner or later. Show Adobe respect and stay legit!

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    CS3 costs around $600 per product.
    it costs a small fraction of money from the perception that Adobe sells it to professionals. So professional software will always be expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron.martone View Post

    DO NOT GO IN FOR CRACKED SOFTWARE. If you get found out, the legal guardian gets the jailtime and multi thousand dollar fine. Remember. This software is not a NEED. It is a WANT. Nothing entitles anyone to the software. All software comes down in price sooner or later. Show Adobe respect and stay legit!
    Is there anyway they can find that out online...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron.martone View Post
    Most Adobe products are 50% off for students. Buying multiple products would be more expensive than buying the suite. Check with your local school bookstore, but the Web Premium suite costs $1600 retail, so that should be $800 (maybe less?) for Educational.

    It includes

    Photoshop CS3 Extended
    Illustrator CS3
    Dreamweaver CS3
    Flash CS3 Professional
    Fireworks CS3
    Contribute CS3
    Acrobat 8 Professional
    Bridge CS3
    Version Cue CS3
    Device Central CS3
    Adobe Stock Photos
    Is that offer available worldwide...for instance is it available in India

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    Personally I'm not advocating software piracy, but you have to realize that one of the reasons a lot of people who are professionals that use Photoshop/Illustrator for a living have trained on pirated copies of Photoshop/Illustrator.

    For example, you spend maybe 2-3 years teaching yourself graphic design using Photoshop and Illistrator, then work for a company that pays for your Photoshop or Illistrator license. For me that's morally ok (although not legally ok) - as long as you do not make any money from what you create using the product.

    I used to work for a company that paid a considerable amount of money each year for Adobe product licensing, however most of the people using it in the company (including me) learnt how to use the product by using a dodgy copy.

    Take that into consideration, ok

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    It happens not only with adobe products but also with all other softwares in India. How do you expect these people who earn about Rs.10,000 a month on an average to spend Rs.72,000 for adobe suite.

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    I know it's expensive but you can see why, a lot of hard work goes into making Photoshop and the other applications in Adobe studios, also why sell for $100 if people will pay $1200 even if piracy happens, it would still happen if they sold it for $100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iTechno View Post
    I know it's expensive but you can see why, a lot of hard work goes into making Photoshop and the other applications in Adobe studios, also why sell for $100 if people will pay $1200 even if piracy happens, it would still happen if they sold it for $100.
    Aren't there eastern economy editions for these softwares just like books.

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    Many of the open source projects r as good they are free why not use them

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    I don't think there's one as good as Fireworks, or Illustrator.
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    Looking for a free Illustrator "clone"? Try Inkscape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iTechno View Post
    I know it's expensive but you can see why, a lot of hard work goes into making Photoshop and the other applications in Adobe studios, also why sell for $100 if people will pay $1200 even if piracy happens, it would still happen if they sold it for $100.
    The problem isn't the price, most of those that use Photoshop professionally pay for it - the others that don't have the mentality that Pirating is OK even if you're making money from it.

    They made a good move with Photoshop elements to cut down on some of the pirating from people who genuinly couldn't afford the full version, but they've not done the same for Illustrator yet because it's not the kind of product that non-professionals use.

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    Which they can easily get a free "clone" of at www.inkscape.org as well (open source software).

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    ^ Dan have you tried inkscape....is it that good? or are you an advocate of open source softwares

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    I have it. Haven't used it much (my computer died on me).

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    I can thoroughly recommend Inkscape and yes it is as good as Illustrator for most things, although for some reason it does not have a native cropping feature (or didn't) which can be annoying. If you intend to use bezier curves a lot you will probably prefer it to Illustrator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Schulz View Post
    (my computer died on me).
    Yeah I know that

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    the adobe studio package here in ireland for students was being offered for €99

    the package here normally costs €999

    the one rule on the software license for €99 was that you cant use it for commercial gain

    how they could prove that you were would be tough so its a bargain if you ask me

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    Thanks for recommending Inkscape. I just installed it and so far it looks pretty good.


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