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    Cool Potentially Habitable Planet Discovered

    Astronomers in Europe have discovered a planet outside our solar system that they claim is the most Earth-like planet found to date, one that is potentially habitable with Earth-like temperatures that may support liquid water and possibly extra-terrestrial life.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070425/...bitable_planet
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070424/...pace_planet_dc

    And for those who want to find the article on Space.com
    http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...exoplanet.html
    Last edited by Dan Schulz; Apr 24, 2007 at 23:18. Reason: Added link to space.com article.

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    I always have to chuckle the way these things are named. This one: "A new Planet". There is nothing new about it, we just did not know about it before.

    Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Datura View Post
    I always have to chuckle the way these things are named. This one: "A new Planet". There is nothing new about it, we just did not know about it before.

    Interesting.
    New to our knowledge.
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    Heh, just like the Americas were called the "New World" and Columbus "discovered" it.

    If there's oil there, perhaps the troops will suddenly be withdrawn from Iraq and the military budgets of the US and UK given to NASA and the ESA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by php_daemon View Post
    New to our knowledge.
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    bravo to the astronomers,

    Now, let engineers develop the vehicles to get us there

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    … and claim it as territory. Oh the outcry …
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    Too bad it's 20.5 lightyears away.

    Oh, and if anyone's interested, you can 'fly' to it with Celestia. (Kind of like Google Earth, but for space)

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    I bet this is supermans planet. Just like they found kryptonite other day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcj662 View Post
    I bet this is supermans planet.
    not very likely

    superman's planet exploded, dude, that's why he was sent to earth
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    The problem here is, how to get there? Developing a machine that travels fast enough should not be a problem in days to come, we are having machines that travels at 4 times the speed of sound, what was unimaginable a few years before.

    But the real problem here will be - say, developing a machine that travels at the speed of light will take us there in 20.5 years. If we stay there sometime to study the planet, and then come back, by the time we will reach the planet, and if we leave on 2010, it will be already 2051. That might not be a solution as new things are coming out everyday, and we won't probably take the risk to wait for 40 years to get a result, considering a better solution might comeout during that long period.

    Now conceptually speaking, traveling there in 6 months time would be good, in that case we can come in about a years time with all the data that we got. But hey, that will mean to develop a machine that travels 40x the speed of light. If we can make the machine oneday, does that solve the problem?

    No, as conceptually once we start moving faster than light, time, the 4th dimension, start going back. I am not sure about the exact ratio, but if moving at 40x takes us 40 years behind, and considering they leave at 2010, by the time they will reach the planet it will be 1930. Now people of 1930 probably will burn them alive on seeing them thinking some witch has come from somewhere, along with with few poor old women from the neighborhood.

    Where's the solution then !!! I think till we develop something to travel thro' time, discovering that kind of far planets physically will remain a day dream. Travel thro' time could be a good solution, as once they reach the earth of, say, 1930, they will travel back to the time from where they left.

    Other solution for them will be to reach that planet traveling at 40x the speed of time, they will have to wait 80 years in that planet so that they can reach earth in good time. Or, may be, some zigzag to and from traveling in the space near about that planet to adjust the time ...

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    If the planet is some lightyears away from earth, how do we really know what is the current condition of a particular planet. We are looking at the past look of the planet!! Assume that I am wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kigoobe View Post
    and if we leave on 2010, it will be already 2051.
    um, no

    you are forgetting relativistic effects

    it will actually already be something like 4,937 CE, and twice that by the time you get back
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    No, as conceptually once we start moving faster than light, time, the 4th dimension, start going back. I am not sure about the exact ratio, but if moving at 40x takes us 40 years behind, and considering they leave at 2010, by the time they will reach the planet it will be 1930. Now people of 1930 probably will burn them alive on seeing them thinking some witch has come from somewhere, along with with few poor old women from the neighborhood.
    you will never move faster than light, if so, you might not be able to transfer any information beyond the speed of light. I read what Charles Seife wrote

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    Quote Originally Posted by kigoobe View Post
    No, as conceptually once we start moving faster than light, time, the 4th dimension, start going back. I am not sure about the exact ratio, but if moving at 40x takes us 40 years behind, and considering they leave at 2010, by the time they will reach the planet it will be 1930. Now people of 1930 probably will burn them alive on seeing them thinking some witch has come from somewhere, along with with few poor old women from the neighborhood.

    Where's the solution then !!!
    Uhm, I think it's a little bit contrary. You'd "travel to the future". Considering they leave in 2010, by the time they reach the planet, it would be 2080 here (uneducated guess).
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    Wormholes I say, use wormholes.

    PS. We could also shoot Big foot up to the planet, since he aparently has such a long life, he would be just the person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyFu View Post
    If the planet is some lightyears away from earth, how do we really know what is the current condition of a particular planet. We are looking at the past look of the planet!! Assume that I am wrong.
    Right, we are seeing how the planet was looking 20.5 years back. But that may not change many things, considering a planet doesn't get changed significantly in such a small time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r937 View Post
    um, no

    you are forgetting relativistic effects

    it will actually already be something like 4,937 CE, and twice that by the time you get back
    Honestly speaking, I've totally forgotten that theory. How do u calculate that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyFu View Post
    you will never move faster than light, if so, you might not be able to transfer any information beyond the speed of light. I read what Charles Seife wrote
    Why not? How can you be so sure? Data will stay in his brain and in his computer, both of which will travel along with time, and hence, for none of these time will change, or am I missing something?

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    Cool, glad to hear

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    Quote Originally Posted by php_daemon View Post
    Uhm, I think it's a little bit contrary. You'd "travel to the future". Considering they leave in 2010, by the time they reach the planet, it would be 2080 here (uneducated guess).
    Ummm ... I'm myself confused Daemon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Datura View Post
    Wormholes I say, use wormholes.

    PS. We could also shoot Big foot up to the planet, since he aparently has such a long life, he would be just the person.
    Ha ha ... good joke (edited)

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    I hereby name the planet sitepointopia.

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    The flag of course is the orange and dark blue sitepoint logo on a pale blue-green background.
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    Actually... it seems it was discovered by a telescope in Chille

    and yes it would make a great flag... now for a competition on who can make the best looking flag!


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