Which is the best and fastest...

**Zone** · Jun 29, 2000, 00:11

What do you think which free web based site statistic is the fastest? Now I'm using Hitbox, but I don't know is it the best choice. Do you have any experience, comments or idea?

Zone

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**TWTCommish** · Jun 29, 2000, 02:49

I highly recommend http://www.sitemeter.com - tiny little multi-colored square sits anywhere on any page you're tracking and gives you tons of info...browser, language, OS, extension, referalls, pie charts and graphs on traffic patterns...very useful service.

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**dtremblay** · Jun 29, 2000, 16:17

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote

/font><HR>Originally posted by Zone:
[B]What do you think which free web based site statistic is the fastest? Now I'm using Hitbox, but I don't know is it the best choice. Do you have any experience, comments or idea?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've tried many, but I think HitBox is definetely the best one available.

WebTrendsLive was also interesting, but it is too unreliable.

**Aidan Bahta** · Jun 29, 2000, 18:19

HitBox is the most comprehensive, but a lot of the stats go to waste. eXTReMe Tracker is a good one too, I believe the site is http://extreme-dm.com/ The icon is small too, and reports are very easy to read. SiteMeter is also great since it has a small button.

One question: why not use logfiles?

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**MattAus** · Jun 29, 2000, 18:26

I use extreme on my site as I didn't want to have someone elses icon on my page. It only costs $5 a month to be iconless and I believe no one else offers this option.

Service is great.

One bad point though is FP screws with the javascript.

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**Zone** · Jun 29, 2000, 20:30

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote

/font><HR>Originally posted by trcfreebies:

One question: why not use logfiles?

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What does it mean? Should I use javascripts which creates the logfiles?

Zone

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**Justin S** · Jun 30, 2000, 03:32

Almost all hosts keep logfiles on your pages. If your host offers a control pannel then you can view them their, and even sometimes manipulate them to display according to specifications.

Anyway, I would reccomend just using a CGI script. That way you won't have to display any annoying icons on your site. You can find these scripts at The Perl Archive (www.perlarchive.com) and HotScripts (www.hotscripts.com).

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**TWTCommish** · Jun 30, 2000, 04:10

CGI scripts are allright...but are there any that provide detailed statistics, like SiteMeter or HitBox? I havn't seen one yet personally.

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**Aidan Bahta** · Jun 30, 2000, 18:26

Some windows-based log analizers can rival sites such as HitBox.

They are much more reliable, and more accurate too.

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**Lazarus** · Jun 30, 2000, 21:09

Can you give us a few examples of Windows-based log analyzers, trcfreebies?

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**Daniel** · Jun 30, 2000, 22:36

Yeah I use the HitBOX program too... it's awfully slow, buggy and - hehe - the News page still points to Webmaster-Resources.com.

Haha. (I still use HitBOX though).

**qslack** · Jul 1, 2000, 06:15

HitBox comes with a downloadable program to see your stats...except it is very buggy.

WebTrends is a program that can analyze log files, although it's fairly expensive. There are a few others and all can for sure be found at www.download.com , www.davecentral.com , or www.tucows.com .

**Aidan Bahta** · Jul 1, 2000, 09:17

HitBOX's program is great, but very buggy.

For Windows-based analysers, check out http://www.gumball-tracker.co.uk/gsoftwarewin.htm

I personally like FastStats and OpenWebScope.

Let us know how things turn out!

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**TWTCommish** · Jul 1, 2000, 12:51

HitBox is supposed to be highly popular...I don't hear much about SiteMeter though...which is a shame...in my opinion, the smaller the counter is (SM's is quite tiny if you want it to be)...the better...not to mention the pie charts and graphs are very cool and highly useful...most people can get a better idea of how their site is doing from actually seeing it rather than starting at a bunch of numbers.

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**Flywaver** · Jul 2, 2000, 04:46

Well,

I installed Hitbox and like you said it's awfully buggy! Every stats page loads slowly and each second time I do a check they don't load properly...good thing they offer quite a few stats and don't force to show the numbers.

Cheers!

**TWTCommish** · Jul 2, 2000, 05:01

If it's buggy, then go with http://www.sitemeter.com - smaller button, the option to ignore 2 seperate IP Addresses from being tracked when visiting the site, and a privacy level so no one can view your stats...as well as pie charts and graphs...which are quite cool.

Because of SiteMeter, I was able to see that 99% of my visitors spoke English, and 1% spoke Japanese.

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**Zone** · Jul 3, 2000, 01:01

Ok. Now I have a lot of opinion, but I should like to know which is the fastest. SiteMeter or Hitbox or any other?
It is very important because if I would like to monitor the top path or the most requested pages, I have to insert a little code on every page. This code contains a link to the server which makes the monitoring. So when a user enter my site (or any of my pages), he have to wait until the monitoring server save the information about him. (information about the browser, browser version, operating system, domain name, etc.)
It takes a long time to track these infromations. So the speed is very important.
The question still who is the fastest?

Thanks

Zone

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**Elledan** · Jul 3, 2000, 02:53

For my site, I'm using NedStat. They've extensive statistics and the used button is very small.
For an example, you can go to my site, the button is on the right of the 'main' page.

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**Flywaver** · Jul 3, 2000, 15:12

Thanks TWTCommish, I am now with SiteMeter and it's much better than Hitbox in terms of speed and loading time...for both the stats page and my web pages because I use the transparent counter with privacy to the highest.

Another great tip from this community...quite amazing hehe.

Cheers!

**Aidan Bahta** · Jul 3, 2000, 18:02

I believe HitBOX is updated in real time.

Not sure about SiteMeter or Nedstat.

Extreme tracker updates every few hours or so.

So....why not use logs? Much more reliable. Free. Invisible. Faster than anything )real time).

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**Flywaver** · Jul 4, 2000, 07:22

Anyone knows how to close an account from Hitbox? There is no mention on their site.

Cheers!

**Aidan Bahta** · Jul 8, 2000, 08:20

I think that if you just don't use it for a period of time they will drop you. Just take the HTML off your pages and move on.

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**Graphic Axis** · Jul 8, 2000, 09:15

I don't know much about free trackers, however, if you want to go commercial -- WebTrends Professional is definitely the best. I have been using it for about a year. While it is on the expensive side, its worth it!

Unlike trackers, where you would go their site to recieve statistics, with WebTrends you will have to download the log files from your server and then let the software analyse it for you.

Rating = 10/10

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**Flywaver** · Jul 9, 2000, 05:40

Well,

I just had to put all of the SiteMeter tracking code in comment tags due to the nice little greeting on the SiteMeter site:

"Welcome to Microsoft® Windows NT® 4.0 Option Pack"! This is quite nice...all my pages weren't properly loading due to their "issue"...I guess there isn't such a thing as a reliable stats software.

Btw, my host is using WebTrends Pro and it went down after 3 weeks and this was in January...they never fixed the issue and I have been without any stats for 6 months! My host said he would change stats software, which he never did.

Cheers!

**TWTCommish** · Jul 9, 2000, 06:03

Fly: could you re-word that a bit? I don't understand the problem...I'd be interested in hearing about it.

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