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    Lightbulb Should users be required to login before commenting on an article?

    Hi,

    I'm building a content management system for my website, and I'm thinking about letting users post their comments on articles they've read. Should I require them to login before commenting and rating the article? Why or why not?
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    I would say no. If the articles are open to the public viewing, then they should also be able to comment on them publicly. If they are required to register and log in, you may lose out on a few good comments and not really dispell the baddies from re-registering anyways.

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    Agreed, I added a comments engine to my last blog and I didn't bother with logins and accounts. It's more fun to allow things to happen and deal with the consequences. More importantly, I wanted a truly open forum.

    Try it without. If you hate it, it's 5 minutes work to set up an accounts system.

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    In certain circumstances they should. If you visit slashdot.org and read some of the discussions without filtering then they're absolutly destroyed by anonymous posters troling, flooding and posting endless links to sicko porn sites.
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    I believe it shoudn't. You should give away a lot to your users before asking them to logon to something. Most people don't like having to perform some tasks before they can get access to what they want... even if that task is as simple as registering.

    I believe you should open a complete access and motivate their interest. Think of another service to provide them related to your articles and make that one available on logon. If your articles are good enough, people will register.

    That's how it worked for me on SitePoint. I asked for a lot and now that they've given it to me and have earned my trust it's now my turn to give back. I think the same applies to most of us don't you agree?
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    think of it this way, would you want to go to the register page, fill out the details, find out the usrnames allready taken, fill out the details again, go back to the article then to the form to comment, write 2 lines about what someboy left out, just so the site you were looking at could do better next time?

    if a site wants my feedback, and i have to register in order to provide that feedback, then ill keep my opinions to myself. :0)

    just my $2.22 worth, unfortunatly

    p.s: cyber, i agree completely

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    Originally posted by iTec
    think of it this way, would you want to go to the register page, fill out the details, find out the usrnames allready taken, fill out the details again, go back to the article then to the form to comment, write 2 lines about what someboy left out...
    iTec's right (Geez, Satan must be ice-skating to work, now). That's a lot of work and the only people who are likely comment are extremely motivated (i.e. angry). Just having people sign in may skew the results, I think.
    Last edited by Ian Glass; Jan 6, 2002 at 19:10.

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    No. They should be able to comment without telling you a thing about themselves.

    To put it simply I only join site I am inderested in joining if they have good articles I will read the articles but if that is it I would never join. I can think of two sites off the top of my head that I go to often and can't be bothered joining but frequent and want to comment often. www.phpbuilder.com and www.zend.com oh an www.devshed.com.
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    I guess you should allow anonymous posting with this heading:

    "All Anonymous Posts will be approved by the Administrator before they appear on the site."

    Hope you got the idea....
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    That could also be a good idea The Rock. Not bad at all...
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    Good one. We used to do that on bbs's way back when they were actual BBS's. That gave me an idea
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    This is a tricky issue but I think you should require them to register and login to post a reply to an article. If they decide to post rude or obscene language you can ban that particular user.

    If they don't have to register it's completely anonymous. Of course, depending on what you're trying to do, anonymity can be good... in the case of a website like f*dcompany.com I would say do not require users to login or register.

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    You can allow anonymous posting as long as there is an approval mechanism in place because you CAN be held liable for what is on your site, regardless of whether it was put there or not.
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    can't find it know but sitepoint have considered a similiar problem I remeber reading in the suggestions etc.. and they did it because they were getting nonsense responses and it wasn't making the ratings valuable.

    I said yes - which seems the majority but if your articles are worth it then I don't mind - but then I am one of those peoples who don't really comment on much..

    hard decision, censored is certainly a must though like rock says

    go with your heart and see what happens just be prepared for a heap of **** as so many people seem happy to trash others good work...
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    I'm just afraid that if I setup an approval mechanism that people would not comment. Also, what would happen if I went on vacation for a week? That would be a lot of comments to sift through, and the ratings wouldn't be updated that week.

    I'll think about it Sarah. Thanks for the tip.
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    Does anybody have some swear words that should be censored? If so, please email them to me.

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    Corbb,

    First to your last question, I have seen a filtering package somewhere....for the life of me dont recall where though.

    About the posting comments thingy.......Do you not have ANY area on your site for users to register?

    Most sites have some similance of registration, now-a-days. If for no other reason, than to build a mailing list. Is registration not all important to allow for setting cookies in users system, for future use?

    Personally, I think these are a good thing for a lot of reasons. One of which, is to know whos naughty and whos nice.......

    I know some will shout: "CENSORSHIP"
    I think if you are the owner of a website, that gives you the RIGHT to moderate your content added by users. I am not suggesting to you, that you delete any/all unfavorable post........its a thin line called discretion. However, you certainly would not want to run an advertising campaign for someone elses site or dillusional thoughts.

    Hope this helped in some way!

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    *****, ****, ***, ****, ****, ****, *****, ********, ******, ***, ****, ******, *******, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, *****, *******, ***, *****, ******, *****.

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    Everybody is making some great points...keep 'em coming.

    Ian: Can you email me all those swear words that vBulletin censored?

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    ian - well at least you can say sitepoint has all yours censored!

    Couldn't you ask sitepoint for their listing? save you missing out on some? Not sure if its something they would share though??
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    Originally posted by JustForWebmasters
    Ian: Can you email me all those swear words that vBulletin censored?
    Sorry, I can't really say that there're any illicit words in it -- it was just a joke. ;-)

    Anyway, I think that most forum software has a default list of words that you'll be able to use. No doubt that you'll have to edit it in the future because someone will be offended by a word you didn't think was offensive or you never thought of. It's really something that you're going to have to decide on your own, I think.
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    For adults only

    If you are looking for words to censor here is the dictionary of bad words. Just had it emailed today. Covers all languages too.

    http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/stat.html

    That should cover 99% of the words if you really wanna start censoring
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    Geesh! Haven't even heard of some of those. 418 swear words?!

    Thanks Maelstrom!
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    The question now maelstrom... why do you receive such information???

    I've looked at the french ortion and I must say, it's pretty complete. It even contains expressions I had never even heard of.

    I might pick up a few new expressions here and there, he, he, he...
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    Originally posted by cybercodeur
    The question now maelstrom... why do you receive such information???

    I've looked at the french ortion and I must say, it's pretty complete. It even contains expressions I had never even heard of.

    I might pick up a few new expressions here and there, he, he, he...
    My friends must think poorly of me.

    I even found a site that calculates when you will die. Strange things on the net I tell ya...
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