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    what is php stands for??

    hi there,

    i'm really confused

    at
    http://www.php.net/manual/en/introdu...p#intro-whatis
    they stand PHP for:
    (recursive acronym for "PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor")


    at
    http://whatis.techtarget.com
    they stand PHP for:
    "Personal Home Page Tools"

    well, what is the right definition??

    thank you
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    php is a recursive accronym for:
    PHP Hypertext Preprocessor, as php.net states.

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    I thought it didn't stand for anything!

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    When php was first created the php did stand for personal home page, but they've since changed it to mean php hypertext preprocessor.
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    Once site said it stands for Pre-Hypertext Preprocessor. If it is PHP Hypertext Preprocessor, what does PHP stands for in "Php Hypertext Preprocessor"?
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    friend_al_23:
    PHP stands for PHP Hypertext Preprocessor. (-:

    It's recursive.
    Like GNU's Not Unix

    It's a geek thing (-;

    I'd never heard it called Personal Home Page before today.

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    Originally posted by Anarchos
    When php was first created the php did stand for personal home page, but they've since changed it to mean php hypertext preprocessor.
    Yes that is right! It wasn't until version 3 that they started calling it PHP Hypertext Preprocessor. Incidentally, it wasn't until version 3 when they actually got some public eye, so "Personal Home Pages" was rarely ever heard of.

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    The creator first made a program for his personal use and called it PHP (Personal Home Page) and use it for his own site back I think 1995.
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    Pre-hypertext preprocessor

    Well, the original name as I know it was PRE-Hypertext preprocessor. That was way way back when. It seems the most logical meaning as well, since PHP code is processed before, or "PRE", to the sending of the resulting HTML.

    At one point in time, they called it Personal Home Pages. Why I don't know, but a damn dumb name that was if you ask me.

    The current PHP Hypertext Processor is just as illogical, but it seems to fit with the open-source geeky naming convention.


    I myself prefer ASP (and now ASP.NET - extremely flexible and damn fast!), as I have been using it since it was introduced, LONG before PHP was ever conceived of. ASP's interaction with COM gives me far more control than PHP ever will.

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    But ASP are hard to learn.
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    Originally posted by Anarchos
    When php was first created the php did stand for personal home page, but they've since changed it to mean php hypertext preprocessor.
    ^^^ what he said ^^^

    Pine Is Not Elm what does Pine stand for then?
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    Pine == Program for Internet News & Email.

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    seriously? i was told the other... oh well.

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    It's "Personal Handy Phone" silly!

    PHP.

    For kicks a few more acronyms.

    Owen

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    Wait more!

    3 levels of nested acryonyms

    This one's good!

    Worlds longest acryonym:
    NIIOMTPLABOPARMBETZHELBETRABSBOMONIMONKONOTDTEKHSTROMONT

    Which means: the Laboratory for Shuttering, Reinforcement, Concrete and Ferroconcrete Operations for Composite-monolithic and Monolithic Constructions of the Department of Technology of Building Assembly Operations of the Scientific Research Institute of the Organization for Building Mechanization and Technical Aid of the Academy of Building and Architecture of the USSR


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    Personally I prefer PHP - Pot Head Pixie

    But yes it's PHP Hypertext Pre-processor now, and it was Personal Home Page as PHP started as a collection of scripts written to make the running of a personal home page easier.

    [off-topic]
    Incidentally the person that said ASPs interaction with COM gives it more flexability than PHP will ever have is discounting the fact that PHP has COM support too as well as support for including Java into it too (Such as your compiled JAR files etc.), combined with the fact that PHP can run on far more platforms than ASP makes it extremely flexible - but of course you knew all those things before you posted your comment?
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    Originally posted by Owen
    Wait more!

    3 levels of nested acryonyms

    This one's good!

    Worlds longest acryonym:
    NIIOMTPLABOPARMBETZHELBETRABSBOMONIMONKONOTDTEKHSTROMONT

    Which means: the Laboratory for Shuttering, Reinforcement, Concrete and Ferroconcrete Operations for Composite-monolithic and Monolithic Constructions of the Department of Technology of Building Assembly Operations of the Scientific Research Institute of the Organization for Building Mechanization and Technical Aid of the Academy of Building and Architecture of the USSR


    Sorry, I couldn't help myself
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    Gosh, I never knew that. Thanks for the info. How about the first computer crime in the US?
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    Don't forget after it was Personal Home Pages and before it was Hpertext Precprocessor it was php/fi Personal Home Pages/Form Interpreter

    For the complete story from the horse's mouth

    http://www.php.net/manual/phpfi2.php#history
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    Originally posted by Marshall
    Pine == Program for Internet News & Email.
    I always thought it stood for Pine's Not Elm. It meant a lot of similar things but never exactly that. But finally they decided on Pine Internet News and E-mail.

    Interesting http://www.island-resort.com/pine.htm

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    I suspect that like a lot of computer acronyms, the acronym came first and then someone decided what it stood for...

    For example BASIC was BASIC long before someone dicided it stood for Beginners All purpose Symbolic Instruction Code.
    I believe it was M$ (fairly recently) who decided that PING stood for Packet InterNetwork Groper (I love that one!!)

    So, the real question is, what does "C" stand for? And why do "D"?

    Oh, and BTW, thanks for the long acronym - I just LOVE collecting useless information - like did you know the Elephant is the only creature to have 4 kneecaps?
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    Me too! I like learning new useless information like the one about who the "true love" is in the song "Twelve Days of Christmas" and that all gifts has a symbolic meaning. You probably know that by now but I just did.

    What's a kneecap, BTW?
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    i thought it stood for pre hypertext processor
    Nearly 7 years old!

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    I believe, for a short time, "PHP Hypertext Preprocessor" stood for "'Personal Home Page' Hypertext Preprocessor" but they chaged that to the recursive one soon after
    ( atleast that is what a book I have read states )

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    Why on earth would you still be arguing this, I posted the link(7 posts up) to where Rasmus Lerdorf(creator of PHP) tells you exactly where the name came from and how it evolved. I suggest anyone who wants to post their idea of what it means read that link before opening mouth.
    Please don't PM me with questions.
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