IE7 Final Released!!!

**Contrid** · Oct 18, 2006, 16:24

Great news people! IE7 Final has been released.

Word has it that IE7 will install on your computer on the 1st of Nov via automatic update. I'm not sure how true this is...but we'll have to wait and see...

I have a link to download it, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post it. Please guide me in this matter. After all...it does validate upon installation. Let me know.

All the best,
Antonie

**Contrid** · Oct 18, 2006, 16:59

Here is a screenshot :

**aaron.martone** · Oct 18, 2006, 17:00

IE7? What benefits does it have? Does it crash faster than IE6? Is it more proprietary? Can it do ANYTHING right?

Heh heh heh.

I'll get IE7 whenever I decide to upgrade to Vista (late 2007)

**Dan Schulz** · Oct 18, 2006, 17:00

*makes mental note to install when I get home*

**Contrid** · Oct 18, 2006, 17:07

It's quite nice. I have one wish though. If only they could drop the whole 'new window' action. That is what tabs are for, right? I really hate it when links open in a new window or in the current tab. Especially speaking about toolbars and links from external applications.

**Tyssen** · Oct 18, 2006, 17:24

Originally Posted by aaron.martone

I'll get IE7 whenever I decide to upgrade to Vista (late 2007)

You'll get it sooner than that if you've got XP SP2 with automatic updates enabled and without the patch to prevent IE7 being installed via automatic update.

**logic_earth** · Oct 18, 2006, 17:51

Originally Posted by Contrid

It's quite nice. I have one wish though. If only they could drop the whole 'new window' action. That is what tabs are for, right? I really hate it when links open in a new window or in the current tab. Especially speaking about toolbars and links from external applications.

You have to edit your settings for it to do that, in fact Firefox does the same thing by default. (At least for me that is how it was.)

**bcr** · Oct 18, 2006, 18:38

Well, I'm not a PC user so I'm not exactly sure if this will work. I installed IE 7.0 today, then for testing purposes I also installed multiple standalone versions of IE.

Will I run into any problems by doing this?

**Dan Schulz** · Oct 18, 2006, 20:02

Nope. I'm doing it right now, actually

.

No problems here. I've done it since the RC came out.

**Keriam** · Oct 18, 2006, 20:55

Originally Posted by Contrid

I have a link to download it, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post it.

Not sure what the issue with a link would be. Just go to Microsoft and the download link is right there in a huge eye grabbing graphic on the home page.

**Contrid** · Oct 18, 2006, 22:05

Originally Posted by Keriam

Not sure what the issue with a link would be. Just go to Microsoft and the download link is right there in a huge eye grabbing graphic on the home page.

I see.

It wasn't there earlier today when I checked.
It was only released like yesterday or today. (not 100% sure).
Great...so everyone can download it and enjoy it.

**Contrid** · Oct 18, 2006, 22:18

The final is basically a stabile version of RC3 with several stability and bug fixes. It seems like they also implemented the clear type interface. (which I think wasn't in the RC3)

**Jack Matier** · Oct 18, 2006, 22:21

Well.. I installed it over RC3, but have this amusing thing to share with everyone during installation. It is particularly amusing because RC3 is quite similar to the Final v7.

"A previous version of Internet Explorer was removed. After restarting your computer to complete removal and logging in, installation will begin automatically and your computer will restart again to finish installation."

Okay, 2 restarts to install a bloody browser?

**Contrid** · Oct 18, 2006, 23:50

IE integrates fully into your OS. Your Windows Explorer is fully powered by the core of IE, thus you can surf the web from any windows explorer address bar. Most of the software that you install on your computer also uses the core of IE for a vast range of networking tasks, etc...

So that's what makes IE a little bit more than just a browser.

**Jack Matier** · Oct 18, 2006, 23:50

A quick test on this system on memory usage between Firefox2 rc3 and IE7:

In both browsers I cleared everything (with exception to my way too many bookmarks in firefox) and loaded several sites without minimizing the browsers.

The websites loaded were:
- http://www.slashdot.org
- http://www.w3csites.com/sites_thumbs.asp
- http://mail.google.com/mail/ (signed into gmail)
- 3 blank tabs.

The results were.
FIREFOX.EXE - 97,504 K
IEXPLORE.EXE - 134,776 K

However, when I minimize the IE7 the process IEXPLORE.EXE drops amazingly down to 18,112. The only reason FIREFOX.EXE does that (drops down to 7,732) is because I set a configuration in the about:config called config.trim_on_minimize (which I set to true).

So why is it that there is no config.trim_on_minimize set to true as a default for the win32 port of firefox? It would seem to be buggy right now?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76831

Edit:
Just did this with Opera and received 36,904 K for not minimized and 6,044 for minimized... which really puts either browser to shame.

**Jack Matier** · Oct 18, 2006, 23:53

Originally Posted by Contrid

IE integrates fully into your OS. Your Windows Explorer is fully powered by the core of IE, thus you can surf the web from any windows explorer address bar. Most of the software that you install on your computer also uses the core of IE for a vast range of networking tasks, etc...

So that's what makes IE a little bit more than just a browser.

Regardless whether or not I thought they dropped integrating IE into the core of windows.. 2 restarts isn't needed. Maybe I got too used to linux or something. I come into windows land and can't seem to get situated in my working environment.

**Shaun(OfTheDead)** · Oct 19, 2006, 04:42

Hey!!... it's about time. Cool.

**wii** · Oct 19, 2006, 05:00

It´s actually quite nice....

**dethfire** · Oct 19, 2006, 11:11

why is yahoo in the ie search bar and not msn?

**Contrid** · Oct 19, 2006, 11:13

Originally Posted by Jack Matier

Regardless whether or not I thought they dropped integrating IE into the core of windows.. 2 restarts isn't needed. Maybe I got too used to linux or something. I come into windows land and can't seem to get situated in my working environment.

No, you're right. I was quite surprised as well...but hey...what can we do?

The first time my PC rebooted, I thought that something went wrong with the installation since it was going over the process again. I just left it for like 10minutes and it eventually rebooted a second time.

**Contrid** · Oct 19, 2006, 11:37

Originally Posted by dethfire

why is yahoo in the ie search bar and not msn?

When I installed it, it only had the Live Search in the toolbar. You might have already installed the Yahoo toolbar on a previous version of IE which assigned itself as your default search engine.

**Dan Schulz** · Oct 19, 2006, 12:23

Originally Posted by dethfire

why is yahoo in the ie search bar and not msn?

Let me guess, you grabbed the distro from Yahoo rather than Microsoft, right?

**Jack Matier** · Oct 19, 2006, 14:20

Okay, I heard some people saying it's pretty... and I'll agree that it's pretty pretty if you're using XP with a skin, something that I don't typically do because I like to have more process/memory go towards useful things. So.. here's a screenshot of what it looks like for me:

http://www.zat.ca/ie7noskin.jpg
http://www.zat.ca/firefox2noskin.jpg

Does anyone care to see Opera without windows skinning/theming? I don't know what the point of this exercise was considering that WIE7 will only work on machines with themes (WinXP+), and that most of those users don't turn the skins off it's not much of a problem. This is just from speculation of the people I see using windows XP.

So.. some random updates:
1. There is a Vulnerability found within 24 hours. It is a small one though which affected MSIE6 beforehand. This bug doesn't affect Windows Vista.
http://secunia.com/advisories/22477/

2. Internet Explorer is now known as "Windows Internet Explorer" (or WIE for short).. so I'll be typing this out with some inconsistencies for the next few months. I'm not sure if I'd rather say MSWIE or WIE.. WIE just sounds like an acronym with a wine...or just something pronounced.. "why? [am I stuck in this acronym]"..

3. Everyone in the web development community already knows this but.. they didn't improve much between IE6 and IE7 in the amount of standards they support as shown by webdevout.
http://www.webdevout.net/browser_sup...=on&uas=CUSTOM

However, they did fix some things from position is everything. So fixing the outstanding rendering bugs before moving on seems like a good idea. I'm just wondering how IE still uses more memory (and cpu) for rendering things when they use 60% of the standards other browsers use.

The real telling will be between Firefox3 and MSWIE8... Anyway, back to Linux, I just saw the comments and had to come back here to make some screenshots.

**dethfire** · Oct 19, 2006, 14:28

Originally Posted by Dan Schulz

Let me guess, you grabbed the distro from Yahoo rather than Microsoft, right?

Nope, straight from the microsoft homepage. Yahoo was search default as beta too.

**Dan Schulz** · Oct 19, 2006, 15:01

Odd.

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