What kind of problem is that ?????

**spirelli** · Sep 14, 2006, 23:53

Could you plese have a look at http://m-ap.com/Pembridge-Square.html

I haven't come accross this before: In different browser it displays it displays differently- some as it should and in some it doesn't.

Somehow I suspect that it has something to do with character encoding, but I can't be sure. In FF it changes when I switch from Unicode UTF-16 Big Endian to Western (iso-8859-1).

The page should really display just the same way as http://m-ap.com/Pembridge-Square.html does, for example, instead it either displays as if it is not linked to the style sheets or it displays the code starting 2 weird characters:

Code:

þÿ <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"

or

Code:

<thorn>ÿ <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"

In some browsers (e.g. Safari) it's ok. What's going on!?

Thanks for any ideas!

**rbutler** · Sep 15, 2006, 13:12

The only thing view source tells me is that your file is corrupt. Beyond that, we would have to see the local source file to be able to provide a helpful hand.

**Dan Schulz** · Sep 15, 2006, 20:22

What character encoding are you using, and what character encoding is being sent by the server?

**njrocket** · Sep 15, 2006, 20:55

I have the same problem, my site Sports Chatter also has the same type of problem. My site loads up fine with the tables set how i want them in mozilla. When i use the browser IE, its all messed up. Anyway to fix this?

**Ed Seedhouse** · Sep 15, 2006, 21:25

Originally Posted by njrocket

I have the same problem, my site Sports Chatter also has the same type of problem. My site loads up fine with the tables set how i want them in mozilla. When i use the browser IE, its all messed up. Anyway to fix this?

You don't have a hope of getting it fixed until you get your xhtml validated. You have more than 100 errors in your page! It's amazing any browser can display it at all.

**Mittineague** · Sep 16, 2006, 07:31

The characters

þÿ

are the Byte Order Mark (BOM) they instruct the browser that the file is UTF-16BE (big endian)
From http://www.geocities.com/pmpg98_pt/C...rEncoding.html (citing w3c)

1. If there is a BOM, then this defines the file encoding.
2. If there isn't then look at the Encoding Declaration.
3. If none of the above meet then assume UTF-8.

My guess is that not all browsers can deal with UTF-16BE Is there a reason you're using it? Do you have to? What are you creating the file with? There is most likely a way to determine what encoding the file is created in with whatever you are using.

@njrocket
You do not have the "same" problem. The page is using the DOCTYPE XHTML 1.0 Strict, but it is not (uses deprecated font tags for 1 thing). This could be part of the problem, which is mark-up and/or CSS related, and not an encoding issue. You should be able to fix it by doing as Ed Seedhouse suggested and getting it to first pass the validator.

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