Problem with cell spacing in Tables

[keano]

I am learning to style tables in CSS. No problem with it except for the cell spacing. I use the border-collapse:collapse style but it works great in Mozilla but in IE6 still looks not right?

Is there a way around this? WTF doesn't IE just do the same as Mozilla? why the differences?

[Raffles]

"Why the differences?"

Well, mostly because Microsoft didn't really care about web standards and more about doing whatever they wanted. Only now have they realised that adhering to them is better for everyone in the long run. It's still too little too late, but the fact remains that IE6's way of rendering certain things is very quirky when compared to more robust browsers like Mozilla.

You mean that there is still some space between your table cells? Have you set the padding and margin to 0 for td? If you do that and give your table border-collapse:collapse; then your cells should share borders without gaps, even in IE6.

[keano]

thanks I figured it out.

So it miscrosoft going to adhere to web standards with version 7?

[Stormrider]

in theory, yes.

in practice, it will probably introduce 100s more bugs that we have to code around.

[Dan_A]

IE 7 is a stepping stone in our effort to improve our standards compliance

From
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/08/22/712830.aspx

[crowden]

Why can't they just fix everything at once? I'm guessing this is the reason everyone I've gotten to know in the past year hates MS.

That blog reminds me of this blog on PNG support

[Raffles]

It's quite difficult to fix absolutely everything at once when there are so many hacks people rely on and when there is just SO MUCH that is wrong.

[AutisticCuckoo]

Why can't they just fix everything at once?

There are at least three reasons:

1. The Trident rendering engine is simply too broken. They need to write a new one from scratch.
2. Billions of Web pages rely on those bugs.
3. Other parts of Windows will fall apart if they change certain things (e.g., Explorer, Outlook)

[Dan Schulz]

Why can't they just fix everything at once? I'm guessing this is the reason everyone I've gotten to know in the past year hates MS.

That blog reminds me of this blog on PNG support

There is an old Chinese saying that is as applicable today (and to this situation) as it was back then.

"The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step."

[Stormrider]

Billions of Web pages rely on those bugs.

Without being too funny, that's just tough! If you code your site based on the bugs in a particular browser (Im not talking about workarounds here, I mean actually using a bug to display something how you want), then that's your own fault, surely?

[AutisticCuckoo]

While I agree with you, I can also understand the 'other' side of it. Any commercial company that releases a browser that 'breaks' lots of sites which their users like to visit, will lose money. Normal users don't care whether the fault lies with the website or the browser. They just want it to 'work'.

It's different for those of us who do this for a living. We know that this broken page is broken because it's badly coded by someone who doesn't know what s/he's doing. But 99% of the surfing population don't have that knowledgde, and they don't care.

[crowden]

There is an old Chinese saying that is as applicable today (and to this situation) as it was back then.

"The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step."

not when they're baby steps.

[Dan Schulz]

There is another old saying worth paying attention to. Before you can learn to walk, you must first learn to crawl.